KK 3bettet get raised on flop

[The White Rabbit]

An 18/10 never ever has a 5 here unless he's tilting. I don't know why it can't be QQ, I'd play it exactly like that?

[recallme]

Rabbit you call o fold here?

[orange]

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An 18/10 never ever has a 5 here unless he's tilting. I don't know why it can't be QQ, I'd play it exactly like that?

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there are more +EV lines to play QQ than this i think.

[Robert A.]

orange,

Yeah in isolation there are more +EV lines to use here, but in regards to shania and merging your ranges wouldnt this be a good spot to shove with QQ against regulars (who actually try to handread) you play against on a regular basis?

[Redd]

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An 18/10 never ever has a 5 here unless he's tilting. I don't know why it can't be QQ, I'd play it exactly like that?

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there are more +EV lines to play QQ than this i think.

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This doesn't explain why the 18/10/2 can never have QQ here.

[wdead]

no one is retarded enough to check shove the but boat here

[gimmetheloot]

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im not going broke here, im stacking him

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[recallme]

HWat do you think i beat here?

[The White Rabbit]

I'm a little stunned about all the ppl saying call too. I think it's a relatively clear fold against a nitty opponent. He's not value shoving worse and while it might be a fine spot to bluff (depending on your cbet % in 3-bet pots), I never ever see it happening (especially not from nits).

You need ~32% equity to break-even.

Board: 5c Qc 5d
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 29.636% 26.23% 03.41% 3635 472.50 { KhKs }
Hand 1: 70.364% 66.96% 03.41% 9280 472.50 { QQ+, AcKc, AQs }

I think this range is even a little too optimistic considering my perception of the general 18/10.

Can the call crowd provide their estimated range? I don't buy a value shove w/ JJ from a 18/10!

[recallme]

I think rabbit is pretty right here, but if we include JJ crazyness or sth stupid wehave these 32%