**The Official NY-Boston Weekend Series Thread**

[Triumph36]

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i've never been a huge fan of torre, but the roster construction is really weird. 3 1b/dh, and melky/cairo to fill in the rest? odd.

that, and the pitching "depth" is a joke. cashman should be under more heat than torre.

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huh? so you're saying a rotation of wang, mussina, pettitte, igawa, pavano with rasner/karstens/hughes as potential fill-ins isn't any good?

pavano was obviously going to get hurt, but having 2 other pitchers on the DL right away was unexpected. very few teams have the depth to overcome that. igawa has also been worse than expected.

[zer0]

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huh? so you're saying a rotation of wang, mussina, pettitte, igawa, pavano with rasner/karstens/hughes as potential fill-ins isn't any good?

pavano was obviously going to get hurt, but having 2 other pitchers on the DL right away was unexpected. very few teams have the depth to overcome that. igawa has also been worse than expected.

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well, my main point was the 3 1b/dh's being horrible roster construction, but yes, i dont think the yankees rotation was really any good to start. counting on pavano and igawa to give you solid production was a reach, and with the injury history of everyone outside of mussina, you had to figure the backups would have a significant impact (although, not all at once)

[Triumph36]

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huh? so you're saying a rotation of wang, mussina, pettitte, igawa, pavano with rasner/karstens/hughes as potential fill-ins isn't any good?

pavano was obviously going to get hurt, but having 2 other pitchers on the DL right away was unexpected. very few teams have the depth to overcome that. igawa has also been worse than expected.

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well, my main point was the 3 1b/dh's being horrible roster construction, but yes, i dont think the yankees rotation was really any good to start. counting on pavano and igawa to give you solid production was a reach, and with the injury history of everyone outside of mussina, you had to figure the backups would have a significant impact (although, not all at once)

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counting on igawa to be at least not terrible wasn't a stretch - PECOTA gave him an ERA in the high 4s, IIRC. he's left a ton of balls up in the zone though.

and exactly right, not at all at once. rasner and karstens aren't awful - they're 6th and 7th starters, who can go 5 innings and allow 2-4 runs. they are what they are. it's hard to sign a quality pitcher and then tell him 'oh, by the way, go to scranton to start the year and make sure to pass through waivers'.

yes, the 3 1B-DH thing is horrible - doug mientkiewicz should be somewhere, anywhere else. the fact that the yankees have a non-factor as a backup catcher i can live with - the fact that they can't find first basemen who can hit is not.

[JokerArmy]

I don't mind if the 1b can't hit...1-8 in the order is suppose to hit and they aren't...Abreu is in a terrible slump, Damon isn't 100%, Cabrera isn't hitting...yet they still have the most runs scored in the leauge...hitting isn't and never will be the problem w/ this team.

WE CAN'T PITCH...that's our problem...We don't have a power starting pitcher in the rotation (maybe Hughes but we'll see) that's a problem...We don't have a bonified #1 starter in the rotation that can stop a team dead...that's a problem.

- JA