killing someone who is trying to rob you

[wtfsvi]

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I think we can all agree that society would be better off without muggers. (...)

It disgusts me that there are so many people out there that think criminals should have more rights than law-abiding citizens.

[/ QUOTE ] I think society would be better off without moralistic "law-abiding citizens" that think they can decide who deserves to live and die. That doesn't mean I condone killing of these people.

[guids]

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I think we can all agree that society would be better off without muggers. (...)

It disgusts me that there are so many people out there that think criminals should have more rights than law-abiding citizens.

[/ QUOTE ] I think society would be better off without moralistic "law-abiding citizens" that think they can decide who deserves to live and die. That doesn't mean I condone the killing of these people.

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So who in your view is allowed to judge people?

[einbert]

It really has more to do with the fact that he is a pointing a gun at my face than "who" he is. I mean, it's basic survival instinct.

As for being proud of killing this person, I might have gone a little far with that statement. But look at it this way: you may have saved the life of an innocent person that mugger would have killed in the future.

[wtfsvi]

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So who in your view is allowed to judge people?

[/ QUOTE ] To death? No one. But certainly not individuals.

To other things? Since we don't have a better alternative, courts of law.

[guids]

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So who in your view is allowed to judge people?

[/ QUOTE ] To death? No one. But certainly not individuals.

To other things? Since we don't have a better alternative, courts of law.

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Why do you think it isnt our job to decide if someone should live or die? I take it you don't believe in a higher power, so whats teh difference, we are all just animals, it happens all the time, the bad get weeded out by death? Why are you trying to push your morals on me?

[wtfsvi]

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Why do you think it isnt our job to decide if someone should live or die? I take it you don't believe in a higher power, so whats teh difference, we are all just animals, it happens all the time, the bad get weeded out by death? Why are you trying to push your morals on me?

[/ QUOTE ] You're right that I don't believe in a higher power. Other than that your post is imossible to rebut. If you think you can decide who deserves to live and die, there's nothing I can do about that. And I'm not curious to know if you think everyone else too can kill whoever they want.

[luckyjimm]

Anyone mentioned the film 'Deathwish' yet?

[pergesu]

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I think we can all agree that society would be better off without muggers. (...)

It disgusts me that there are so many people out there that think criminals should have more rights than law-abiding citizens.

[/ QUOTE ] I think society would be better off without moralistic "law-abiding citizens" that think they can decide who deserves to live and die. That doesn't mean I condone the killing of these people.

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So who in your view is allowed to judge people?

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I don't really know, but somebody should create a legal system or something, where individuals play various important roles, one of which is judging and deciding what happens to people. We could call them deciders.

[guids]

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I think we can all agree that society would be better off without muggers. (...)

It disgusts me that there are so many people out there that think criminals should have more rights than law-abiding citizens.

[/ QUOTE ] I think society would be better off without moralistic "law-abiding citizens" that think they can decide who deserves to live and die. That doesn't mean I condone the killing of these people.

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So who in your view is allowed to judge people?

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I don't really know, but somebody should create a legal system or something, where individuals play various important roles, one of which is judging and deciding what happens to people. We could call them deciders.

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But if the guy is in the act of committing a crime, and it is 100% obviously being committed, and there is NO confusion, why let the chance that the legal system will [censored] up get in the way?


Ps- im half seriousl/half not, playing devils advocate, but I just dont see the point of giving criminals leeway. I am a criminal, I just don't see the point in being a hypocrite and trying to rationalize it.

[wtfsvi]

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But if the guy is in the act of committing a crime, and it is 100% obviously being committed, and there is NO confusion, why let the chance that the legal system will [censored] up get in the way?

[/ QUOTE ] Because everyone deserves a fair trial, plenty of circumstances that you know nothing about can be present. And because armed robbery does not deserve the death penalty.