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Old 04-28-2007, 08:37 AM
BigBadBabar BigBadBabar is offline
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Default Re: QQ - wrong played ? Scary Flop, Loose Passive opponent

i would cap flop and turn and lead the river at least. this is a ton more things than it is a flopped flush. even if it is a flush, which i'm not saying is the case, we have outs.
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Old 04-28-2007, 01:59 PM
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Default Re: QQ - wrong played ? Scary Flop, Loose Passive opponent

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i would cap flop and turn and lead the river at least. this is a ton more things than it is a flopped flush. even if it is a flush, which i'm not saying is the case, we have outs.

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I couldnt cap the turn and i lead out on the river.
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Old 04-28-2007, 04:43 PM
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i would cap flop and turn and lead the river at least.

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Button is loose PASSIVE. He 3-bets this flop, what do you think he has? You can cap the flop for value with your draw to a boat or better and a third player contributing, but after that you call down UI.
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Old 04-28-2007, 08:12 PM
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i would cap flop and turn and lead the river at least.

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Button is loose PASSIVE. He 3-bets this flop, what do you think he has? You can cap the flop for value with your draw to a boat or better and a third player contributing, but after that you call down UI.

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I haven't played in awhile, but wouldn't a flop cap be at best EV neutral if you're that convinced you're beat? Especially if you feel you have to lead out on the turn and charge yourself for your draw?

The stop-and-go is reasonable against someone capable of 3betting the flopped flush draw for a free card but loose-passives don't do that.
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Old 04-28-2007, 10:51 PM
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Button is loose PASSIVE.

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Considering the pre-flop action, what range of hands would a passive player three bet the flop with? A passive player up against a preflop raiser and three better, with some paint hitting on the flop, followed by a bet and a raise on the flop. In my mind, save for KK or AA that he didn't want to cap PF, the range involves villian holding two spades. I probably call down unless I fill up.
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