JJ overpair plus OESD. No read. Shove flop, or do this?

[BombayBadboy]

Hmm I might have been a bit to optimistic with my first query. Yours is a real worst case scenario though. People do stupid things, there is no need to just assign nut hands or near nut hands for villain.

Nah, I think you are right and this might be a fold. His c/r looks very strong In a multiway pot, too. Fold might be correct.

HU I'd shove all day though.

Alsom make your decision on the flop.