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Old 04-17-2007, 08:15 PM
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Default Re: Gun accidents? Guns are dangrous?

For the record:

-I have been consistently anti-gun throughout my life

-I believe the 2nd amendment has nothing to do with a person's right to own a handgun for self-defense. (You can check out recent threads on this where I made my case.)

-I am beginning to reconsider my anti-gun stance.

-OP's implied assertion that guns are not dangerous because there are more accidental deaths from other causes strikes me as wrong. If we define dangerous as "likely to cause harm or injury," guns are certainly dangerous.
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Old 04-17-2007, 09:11 PM
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For the record:


-I am beginning to reconsider my anti-gun stance.



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Good. Whatever you may finally decide on this, to occasionally reconsider core beliefs or a firmly held lifelong stance is a wise thing to do.

-Zeno
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Old 04-17-2007, 09:30 PM
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I don't see how anyone can say that guns are not dangerous. As a matter of fact, IMO, anyone who would say that guns are not dangerous, automatically increases a guns inherent danger.

I think the numbers I listed and the other statistics that can be found on the website I linked in my other post, clearly demonstrate that guns are dangerous.
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Old 04-17-2007, 09:37 PM
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I don't see how anyone can say that guns are not dangerous. As a matter of fact, IMO, anyone who would say that guns are not dangerous, automatically increases a guns inherent danger.

I think the numbers I listed and the other statistics that can be found on the website I linked in my other post, clearly demonstrate that guns are dangerous.

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Of course guns are dangerous. Much in the same way knives or cars are dangerous.

In the hands of responsible people, any potential damage is minimal.

In the hands of someone who wants to do damage, well, they're going to do damage anyway they want or can.

Nobody has ever said guns are not dangerous, and I have no idea where you got that idea.
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Old 04-17-2007, 10:16 PM
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I don't see how anyone can say that guns are not dangerous. As a matter of fact, IMO, anyone who would say that guns are not dangerous, automatically increases a guns inherent danger.

I think the numbers I listed and the other statistics that can be found on the website I linked in my other post, clearly demonstrate that guns are dangerous.

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Of course guns are dangerous. Much in the same way knives or cars are dangerous.

In the hands of responsible people, any potential damage is minimal.

In the hands of someone who wants to do damage, well, they're going to do damage anyway they want or can.

Nobody has ever said guns are not dangerous, and I have no idea where you got that idea.

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If I walk into a room and there is a rattlesnake in one corner and a gun in the other corner, which poses a greater danger to me?
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Old 04-17-2007, 10:21 PM
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If I walk into a room and there is a rattlesnake in one corner and a gun in the other corner, which poses a greater danger to me?

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You'ld probably fall and kill yourself anyway
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Old 04-17-2007, 10:24 PM
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If I walk into a room and there is a rattlesnake in one corner and a gun in the other corner, which poses a greater danger to me?

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You'ld probably fall and kill yourself anyway

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It's more likely for that to kill me than a gun accident, isn't it.
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Old 04-17-2007, 10:38 PM
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If I walk into a room and there is a rattlesnake in one corner and a gun in the other corner, which poses a greater danger to me?

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You'ld probably fall and kill yourself anyway

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It's more likely for that to kill me than a gun accident, isn't it.


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In that situation, I'd doubt it. But I don't have any statistics to misinterpret.
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Old 04-17-2007, 09:39 PM
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I don't see how anyone can say that guns are not dangerous. As a matter of fact, IMO, anyone who would say that guns are not dangerous, automatically increases a guns inherent danger.

I think the numbers I listed and the other statistics that can be found on the website I linked in my other post, clearly demonstrate that guns are dangerous.

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It seems disingenuous to include suicide (the #1 category in your stats) as part of the "guns are dangerous" argument since the point of suicide is to intentionally harm yourself. If a significant portion of the suicides were instead committed by people jumping off buildings, bridges, and other means, society would in fact be more dangerous for most people.
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Old 04-17-2007, 09:52 PM
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Im off to bed now.

In the morning i look forward to reading up on the links you provided showing how many people have been saved by guns compared to how many have been killed by guns.
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