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Old 04-17-2007, 04:47 PM
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Default Re: 650 wsop sat qq with 44 left

for the record guys i think the responses here have been much more normal mtt strategy as opposed to a satellite. let me pose this question

if he folds lets assume he's a 70% chance (or pick your percent) of getting in. Do you really believe he has a 70% (or your pick) chance of winning this hand?
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Old 04-17-2007, 04:48 PM
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If you aren't calling on this flop fold PF.
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Old 04-17-2007, 05:22 PM
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If you aren't calling on this flop fold PF.

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exactly!!!
what board did u expect to see when u raised?
if u dont want to take risk so close to the buble dont raise PF
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Old 04-17-2007, 05:24 PM
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If you aren't calling on this flop fold PF.

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exactly!!!
what board did u expect to see when u raised?
if u dont want to take risk so close to the buble dont raise PF

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POINT. If you were gonna take a flop, you got the flop you want. If you were gonna fold to a push with a flop like that, then might as well fold preflop.
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Old 04-19-2007, 12:43 PM
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If you aren't calling on this flop fold PF.

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yea we need to call, calling assures us a spot in the main event if we win the hand, folding puts us in a tough spot so we need to call in a spot this good.
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Old 04-19-2007, 03:02 PM
C4LL4W4Y C4LL4W4Y is offline
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Default Re: 650 wsop sat qq with 44 left

These are the situations that need to be avoided late in satellite play.

You have a premium, but not the nuts; you're in early position; and you're 13 in front of the bubble # with 9 players behind.

In this situation, the last thing you want to do is see a flop with QQ. No, you can't fold into a seat, but you can use your FE (and you have plenty of it) as the bubble gets closer to keep your stack in good shape ftw.
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Old 04-17-2007, 04:55 PM
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for the record guys i think the responses here have been much more normal mtt strategy as opposed to a satellite. let me pose this question

if he folds lets assume he's a 70% chance (or pick your percent) of getting in. Do you really believe he has a 70% (or your pick) chance of winning this hand?

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as i understand your concern because this is a sat, let me remind you OP isn't in very good chip position to "coast" into the rewards

villain likely realizes this and hence thinks his FE is very high, however, you still have to take a stand in some of the spots in a sat in order to get it in, and i don't see any more situation that is more likely to come up than this to accumulate some chips,

besides, hero probably will get into the seat if he wins this, so this is pretty much the whole tourney here, and i think this is a call still given all the considerations
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Old 04-17-2007, 04:59 PM
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so i hear ya - the question is the comparison of the percentages - in essence your saying the odds of him winning this hand are greater then the odds of him getting in if he folds. I can accept that logic i'm just not convinced it holds

so let me reask it - if he folds what chances do you give him for getting in?
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Old 04-17-2007, 05:02 PM
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Open push.
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Old 04-17-2007, 05:02 PM
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now that i like - something that says youre not going away
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