Two points against Intellectual property laws

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Intellectual property laws are in complete disharmony with capitalism. Capitalism functions on the basis that competition drives innovation. A patent is a legal umbrella from competition.

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Yes Antonio Meucci, Johann Philipp Reis, Alexander Graham Bell, Elisha Gray, and Thomas Edison were in it for the hooker's and blow (and who could get robbed first). A temporary monopoly is no monopoly.

"An economic system in which the means of production are privately owned <u>and controlled</u> and which is characterized by competition and the <u>profit motive</u>."

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A temporary monopoly is no monopoly.

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War Is Peace; Freedom is Slavery; Ignorance is Strength.

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A temporary monopoly is no monopoly.

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War Is Peace; Freedom is Slavery; Ignorance is Strength.

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Please show how the motive for the telephone was not profit and how Bell now maintains it's monopoly. mmmk thanks.

You forgot black is white.

[m_the0ry]

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A temporary monopoly is no monopoly.

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War Is Peace; Freedom is Slavery; Ignorance is Strength.

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Please show how the motive for the telephone was not profit and how Bell now maintains it's monopoly. mmmk thanks.

You forgot black is white.

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Please show how the patent Bell had on the phone helped the consumer and the progression of technology via mandating that no competitive forces shall exist in the telephone market.

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and while the fda might not be perfect, im sure its there for a good reason.



Lol. The credulity you grant to the state amazes me.

"While the National Helium Reserve might not be perfect, I'm sure it's there for a good reason."
"While the Gestapo might not be perfect, I'm sure it's there for a good reason."

The FDA is there for a good reason; to employ a lot of bureaucrats and increase the power of politicians.

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this is a discussion on patents, not on healthcare regulation. i honestly dont know enough about the process to argue about it, but my point is that there were certainly reasonable minds that came up with the fda, and certain events happened that made politicians call for it. yes yes, im sure your uber libertarian ideals would yield a better world cause the fda is mega inefficient, but ASSUME that fda regulations are a fixed part of a pharma company's costs. it has little to do with patents directly.

have to go, but quickly: my argument is not that "oh, compare ancient history where no patents, and now there are patents and techno wow!" my point there was to do exactly what you are saying: that comparing ancient history where there aren't patents yet inventions with todays world simply doesn't work. i was merely pointing out the exponential growth in recent history that occurred in lieu of patents.

and still waiting for you to articulate alternative systems plz.

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A temporary monopoly is no monopoly.

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War Is Peace; Freedom is Slavery; Ignorance is Strength.

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Please show how the motive for the telephone was not profit and how Bell now maintains it's monopoly. mmmk thanks.

You forgot black is white.

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My bad. Had the line in there but deleted it because my memory is a bit fuzzy on it being in there.

I have no idea why I need to show that the motive for the telephone was not profit. I've never made any claims that it wasn't and don't see what relevance that has with anything. Bell doesn't have a monopoly now, but while they did, consumers got the shaft.