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Old 04-13-2007, 08:05 PM
Heir_Aparent Heir_Aparent is offline
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Default Re: How difficult is it to become a good limit player?

I missed 30/60 in that post. It's substantially tougher than 15/30, with the occasignal fish or two in them. It really varies because sometimes you will be 4 handed for a while with 2 or 3 fish and the game is great. However, if u play whatever game is running its not always gonna be so sweet. If you play the regulars its much tougher.
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Old 04-14-2007, 03:58 AM
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you can't go all in.
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Old 04-15-2007, 03:33 AM
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The poker essays book is out of date, it was written at a time when 20/40 was among the bigger games available and "expert" players were significantly worse and player pools were much smaller. Expert play at 20-40 should be in the 2-3 BB/hr range, but your not going to see much of that around as most players capable will be playing the larger games.


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lawl.

3BB/hour is about 10BB/100.

Tables that good do not exist for any extended period of time beyond the play chip level.
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Old 04-16-2007, 01:10 PM
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The poker essays book is out of date, it was written at a time when 20/40 was among the bigger games available and "expert" players were significantly worse and player pools were much smaller. Expert play at 20-40 should be in the 2-3 BB/hr range, but your not going to see much of that around as most players capable will be playing the larger games.


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lawl.

3BB/hour is about 10BB/100.

Tables that good do not exist for any extended period of time beyond the play chip level.

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3BB/hr is closer to 8BB/100 than it is to 10BB/100, especially with auto card shufflers. Expert online players pull in 2-3 BB/100, and live players are granted a vast amount more information to use, enjoy a better fish/good player ratio due to a lack of multitabling, and have more time to make their decisions.
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Old 04-19-2007, 11:39 PM
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3BB/HR equals to $120 in a $20/$40 game. Is it common for a "great" live pro?
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Old 04-20-2007, 01:21 PM
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Closer to non-existent than common.
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Old 04-21-2007, 12:35 AM
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3 big bets per hour? never. 2 is great, and 1.5 is very very good. 1 is more realistic.
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Old 04-22-2007, 07:32 PM
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3BB/HR equals to $120 in a $20/$40 game. Is it common for a "great" live pro?

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Where do these fantasies originate?
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Old 04-20-2007, 12:52 AM
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Who is winning 3bb/100 online over a "long term" sample since no more Party? From what I've read you have to be pretty awesome to pull in 2bb/100 these days. If these players expand their superhuman godlike card playing ability even more to 4bb/100 in live games that is like 1.3bb/hour. 2bb/hour in a live game with a standard drop/time type structure is just plain impossible unless you play like 1 hour a month when the game is absolutely perfect and you are magically able to get into that game without having to wait on the list or play the game when it is at less than its absolute peak of softness.
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Old 04-25-2007, 03:51 PM
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Who is winning 3bb/100 online over a "long term" sample since no more Party? From what I've read you have to be pretty awesome to pull in 2bb/100 these days.

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Expansion of higher limits makes these hypotheticals pretty much moot sine no expert stays at 10/20 making 2-3bb/100. Either they move up, or stop being as vigilant on game selection and their overall game slips (its very hard to play at your peak when less effort still results in solid domination).
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