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Old 04-13-2007, 02:11 PM
DeathDonkey DeathDonkey is offline
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Default Re: observed stars 200/400

Standard for this game as SB is probably 3 betting 50% of his hands or more.

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Old 04-13-2007, 02:37 PM
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Default Re: observed stars 200/400

hes clearly just another fish that ran hot and will eventually dump it all back playing like this.
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Old 04-13-2007, 02:46 PM
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Default Re: observed stars 200/400

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Standard for this game as SB is probably 3 betting 50% of his hands or more.

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BU = 60% of hands
SB = 50% of hands


equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 34.846% 31.98% 02.86% 36460 3264.17 { A8o }
Hand 1: 32.124% 30.37% 01.75% 34623 1997.67 { 22+, A2s+, K2s+, Q2s+, J2s+, T3s+, 95s+, 85s+, 75s+, 64s+, 54s, A2o+, K2o+, Q5o+, J7o+, T7o+, 97o+, 87o }
Hand 2: 33.030% 30.88% 02.15% 35202 2451.17 { 33+, A2s+, K2s+, Q2s+, J4s+, T6s+, 96s+, 86s+, 76s, 65s, A2o+, K5o+, Q7o+, J7o+, T8o+, 98o }



And I personally don't think the SB 3B 50% of hands, and even so, capping a hand that doesn't play well post-flop is just bad without having some kind of other motivation for capping (BU prone to folding 2 cold 3 handed? not likely)...

I stand by my earlier statements even though if your range is correct we have nearly even hot/cold equity.
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Old 04-13-2007, 04:05 PM
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Default Re: observed stars 200/400

Ok couple things. Button is opening more than 60% of his hands here. When I play 3 handed I open like 75% and these 200/400 guys might be damn near 100% as far as I've seen. Also if the button folds the bottom of his range for two more (as I do when the BB is at all sane) then our hot/cold equity goes up a ton, which you didn't account for. Also, these sims just aren't that useful, there are plenty of flops where we will still have ace high and button will be totally unable to continue but this sim doesn't account for playability. I think pokerstove is the most misused tool ever to be honest.

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Old 04-13-2007, 05:36 PM
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"hen I play 3 handed I open like 75% and these 200/400 guys might be damn near 100% as far as I've seen."

heh, i open 47%. guess im a nit.
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Old 04-13-2007, 06:22 PM
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Ok couple things. Button is opening more than 60% of his hands here. When I play 3 handed I open like 75% and these 200/400 guys might be damn near 100% as far as I've seen. Also if the button folds the bottom of his range for two more (as I do when the BB is at all sane) then our hot/cold equity goes up a ton, which you didn't account for. Also, these sims just aren't that useful, there are plenty of flops where we will still have ace high and button will be totally unable to continue but this sim doesn't account for playability. I think pokerstove is the most misused tool ever to be honest.

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What button that ever opens 75% finds a fold getting 13:1 very often? In the games I play, you will be forced to fire two damn near every time into two opponents.
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Old 04-14-2007, 04:48 PM
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Ok couple things. Button is opening more than 60% of his hands here. When I play 3 handed I open like 75% and these 200/400 guys might be damn near 100% as far as I've seen. Also if the button folds the bottom of his range for two more (as I do when the BB is at all sane) then our hot/cold equity goes up a ton, which you didn't account for. Also, these sims just aren't that useful, there are plenty of flops where we will still have ace high and button will be totally unable to continue but this sim doesn't account for playability. I think pokerstove is the most misused tool ever to be honest.

-DeathDonkey

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I love that the guy who thinks that people are open raising with 60% of their hands and who opens with 75% of his hands thinks PokerStove is the most misused tool ever.

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Old 04-14-2007, 04:52 PM
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Ok couple things. Button is opening more than 60% of his hands here. When I play 3 handed I open like 75% and these 200/400 guys might be damn near 100% as far as I've seen. Also if the button folds the bottom of his range for two more (as I do when the BB is at all sane) then our hot/cold equity goes up a ton, which you didn't account for. Also, these sims just aren't that useful, there are plenty of flops where we will still have ace high and button will be totally unable to continue but this sim doesn't account for playability. I think pokerstove is the most misused tool ever to be honest.

-DeathDonkey

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I love that the guy who thinks that people are open raising with 60% of their hands and who opens with 75% of his hands thinks PokerStove is the most misused tool ever.

[img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

- Andrew

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i dont get it - it is often misused, and poster has high stakes experience and likely has a good idea of how these games go.
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Old 04-14-2007, 05:03 PM
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It's a perfect example of GIGO.

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Old 04-14-2007, 11:25 PM
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It's a perfect example of GIGO.

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rofl i just looked up gigo.

he sf, arent you too smart to fall for such things?
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