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Old 04-12-2007, 08:20 PM
mgd_speedie mgd_speedie is offline
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honestly, i really like to fold this hand. the bb is not your priority here, as he is accounting for only 31,000 chips. he may have aces, he may have nothing, but your concern is obviously the sidepot. moving forward, even if he can do this with any 2, the fact that you are at best in a domination spot makes this a bad call, in my opinion. you are in a great position to get to the final table and even the final 3 in this tournament. if you think this particular player is very tricky or aggressive, wait till you have a real hand and not just A high. i don't necesarrily think it is a bad call, but i have folded AK before in a huge tournament like this and had the 2nd biggest stack (i was big stack in the final table) show QQ. usually, even though he may have pulled this before, he is not going to pull this move on you with nothing and there is a good chance you are behind to 22 - QQ, splitting the pot, or behind. wait for a better spot. please, please, tell me if i am wrong but this is just what i would do.
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Old 04-12-2007, 08:25 PM
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honestly, i really like to fold this hand. the bb is not your priority here, as he is accounting for only 31,000 chips. he may have aces, he may have nothing, but your concern is obviously the sidepot. moving forward, even if he can do this with any 2, the fact that you are at best in a domination spot makes this a bad call, in my opinion. you are in a great position to get to the final table and even the final 3 in this tournament. if you think this particular player is very tricky or aggressive, wait till you have a real hand and not just A high. i don't necesarrily think it is a bad call, but i have folded AK before in a huge tournament like this and had the 2nd biggest stack (i was big stack in the final table) show QQ. usually, even though he may have pulled this before, he is not going to pull this move on you with nothing and there is a good chance you are behind to 22 - QQ, splitting the pot, or behind. wait for a better spot. please, please, tell me if i am wrong but this is just what i would do.

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when I read what you write it make a lot of sense. the main pot is my concern.
but if i have a read on this guy that he is making a move , I will be favorite to win and be the massive chip leader.
this is really a close one because i also don't want to risk my tourney even if I'm against 26 which i am only 66% favorite.
tough tough call
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Old 04-13-2007, 05:06 AM
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Default Re: calling all-in with AK (again)

I think you're in a coinflip about half of the time and your dominatind his hand the other half. I don't think he would ever do this with AA, and I would be surprised if he has KK also. What kind of better spot do you really think you're going to get in this tournament. if a $50 600 man tourney, the last 18 are going to know how to play.
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Old 04-13-2007, 11:00 AM
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this is really a close one because i also don't want to risk my tourney even if I'm against 26 which i am only 66% favorite.
tough tough call

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How the hell did this get by without getting criticized at least a million times

Edit: I think it is nice of you guys who actually know how to play to give advice here, but you should probably not waste your time on this guy.
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Old 04-13-2007, 11:08 AM
JoeyJoJo Shabadu JoeyJoJo Shabadu is offline
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Play to win the tourney. You have to win these flips eventually... best spot is here. You do not care about the BBs hand... it doesn't even matter. You have 30k to cover the BB and 140k against the big stack. BB hand is inconsequential her since it's AI for two giant stacks. You're only beating the re-raising isoalting big stack... which is re-raising your button "steal attempt" (for all he knows if you've also been very agro).
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Old 04-12-2007, 08:25 PM
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honestly, i really like to fold this hand. the bb is not your priority here, as he is accounting for only 31,000 chips. he may have aces, he may have nothing, but your concern is obviously the sidepot. moving forward, even if he can do this with any 2, the fact that you are at best in a domination spot makes this a bad call, in my opinion. you are in a great position to get to the final table and even the final 3 in this tournament. if you think this particular player is very tricky or aggressive, wait till you have a real hand and not just A high. i don't necesarrily think it is a bad call, but i have folded AK before in a huge tournament like this and had the 2nd biggest stack (i was big stack in the final table) show QQ. usually, even though he may have pulled this before, he is not going to pull this move on you with nothing and there is a good chance you are behind to 22 - QQ, splitting the pot, or behind. wait for a better spot. please, please, tell me if i am wrong but this is just what i would do.

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try sngs not mtts
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Old 04-13-2007, 10:32 AM
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if you think this particular player is very tricky or aggressive, wait till you have a real hand and not just A high.

[/ QUOTE ]AK is a real hand.

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i don't necesarrily think it is a bad call, but i have folded AK before in a huge tournament like this and had the 2nd biggest stack (i was big stack in the final table) show QQ

[/ QUOTE ]Would you be as proud of your fold if villain showed 22?
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Old 04-13-2007, 10:34 AM
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if you think this particular player is very tricky or aggressive, wait till you have a real hand and not just A high.

[/ QUOTE ]AK is a real hand.

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i don't necesarrily think it is a bad call, but i have folded AK before in a huge tournament like this and had the 2nd biggest stack (i was big stack in the final table) show QQ

[/ QUOTE ]Would you be as proud of your fold if villain showed 22?

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Don't forget to ring his bell about 890 being a 'huge tournament'.
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Old 04-13-2007, 10:38 AM
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Default Re: calling all-in with AK (again)

this looks like an easy call to me.

i also don't think this is anything like the other situation. here, you don't have the payout implications (not even at the FT yet), you don't have a stack that gives you significant prizepool equity regardless of what you do here, positions are different, SB can be restealing quite wide here, BB can be moving in wide on his stack.

i really can't see any possible reason to fold this other than SB being a total, complete rock who doesn't reraise anything less than AA/KK.
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