Common No Limit Situation

[PokrLikeItsProse]

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Either raise or fold. Calling is terrible, as it gives us no good information, and allows almost all drawing hands (even some gut shots with backdoor draws) to correctly stay in the hand. If we want to stay in this hand, we've got to eliminate the players to act behind us. Calling will virtually never do that.


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Calling gives information cheaper than raising. If someone calls behind you or raises, you have a good sense of where you are at. If no one stays in behind you, then you will have a good sense of where you are at depending on if your opponent bets or checks. Your call should be a bit scary because it represents a possible set. I can see a player tossing away AK behind you, so I don't think that the motivation to eliminate players works here. And you're definitely allowed to call and fold to a turn bet.

[Dromar]

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Calling gives information cheaper than raising. If someone calls behind you or raises, you have a good sense of where you are at.

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I disagree. Your call is going to give great odds to 4 players who have a huge range based on preflop action, and they are all lucky enough to have relative position on both of the aggressors in the hand up to this point. There's quite a bit they could call with here, so you don't really know where you stand. You calling is like a dream come true for them.

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I can see a player tossing away AK behind you, so I don't think that the motivation to eliminate players works here.

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Maybe they'll throw away AK, but the motivation to get rid of draws on this board definitely exists.