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Old 04-06-2007, 06:06 PM
Bet-and-win88 Bet-and-win88 is offline
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People act like calling on the flop commits you to calling most of the times on the turn and river. Does it?

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No but it gives away too much information. Or are there any other hands you'd play this way if you are straightforward and tight?
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Old 04-06-2007, 06:31 PM
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This is a reverse implied odds situation. Raising is problematic because there are several players to act behind us and if one of them wakes up with a hand we're in trouble. Even if one of the 3 players with position on us flat calls the $1800, we can't like our hand very much and will likely have to give up on the turn. Easy fold with little money invested, poor relative position, and a hand with little chance of improvement if beaten.
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Old 04-06-2007, 08:38 PM
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This is a reverse implied odds situation. Raising is problematic because there are several players to act behind us and if one of them wakes up with a hand we're in trouble. Even if one of the 3 players with position on us flat calls the $1800, we can't like our hand very much and will likely have to give up on the turn. Easy fold with little money invested, poor relative position, and a hand with little chance of improvement if beaten.

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This is what I have been saying. But it appears that a lot of what people have been saying seems to apply to a heads up vs. BB scenario.

Four other opponents increases the likelyhood of all those other bad hands. There could even be a guy with AK and he's probably not exactly thrilled either unless he has something suited happening.

I remember a segment on TV where they asked poker pros what hands they don't like playing and AQ came up a lot. Actually, even Doyle Brunson has commented on how much can be lost on that hand. And I do believe this is good example of such a situation. With no flush or straight hopes you are drawing to 2 outs for trips and 3 outs for two pair, both of which may not even be good enough.
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