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Old 02-21-2006, 04:19 AM
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HE HE. Funny thread.
Also, I think we should ask 2+2 (owners) to make donations to politicians. They can right? And they have a lot to lose if the bill is passed.

We could send the request with one of those sing-o-grams or whatever they are called accompanied by a cameraman to immortalize the agony in the faces of David and Mason when they read it. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 02-21-2006, 04:53 AM
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This thread is awesome. Great read. When is the sublime-goeagles Survivor?

I think it would be close. Or we could have a face-to-face knockout contest as well.
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Old 02-21-2006, 05:35 AM
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To bring this thread back on topic...

Poker sites cant really 'pay for votes'. Advocacy takes a three pronged approach. For truely effective advocacy you need:

1) Lobbying
2) Grassroots mobilzation
3) A political action committee

While the poker industry can lobby and mobilize at the grassroots level, they can not spend corporate money (or in this case, foreign corporate money) on elections. Hence, they cant throw cash at politicans. Even if they could, im not sure you would find many politicans taking this money.

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Most political action committee's are made for the the exact purpose of throwing money at politicians. If you think most politicians wont take this money for their re-election campain you are incorrect.

I dont know much about the poker players alliance (or poker players of america, I forget the name), a group party is affiliated with and they even have had bonuses connected to people that donate to this group. But something tells me the PPA is not a group that wants to get party to reduce their rake, increase customer service, or make sure the beta software does not screw peoples image files. This has got to be a group that is there to influence politicans.
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Old 02-21-2006, 05:46 AM
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This thread is awesome. Great read. When is the sublime-goeagles Survivor?

I think it would be close. Or we could have a face-to-face knockout contest as well.

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Old 02-21-2006, 06:37 AM
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- 95% of americans do give a damn=negitive for us
- it can easily be slipped on the back of some bill = negitive for us
- most politians dont care and by passing it wont hurt there standing = negitive for us

There is only one thing to stop this - MONEY

Party, Poker Stars, all those sports books better start passing some bucks. We can write all the letters we want but these gambling sites better start paying for votes. Which I think they will = positive for us

By my estimate it will cost 12 million to save poker - 200,000 to 60 senators.

Money talks

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and the catch in your post is what... we have to send the 12 million too you so you can send it out... yeah something like that right?
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Old 02-21-2006, 09:20 AM
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Most political action committee's are made for the the exact purpose of throwing money at politicians. If you think most politicians wont take this money for their re-election campain you are incorrect.

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ALL political action committtees are made for the exact purpose of throwing money at politicians. There a handful of politicans who wont take PAC money at all and given the recent Abramoff scandal many politicans are going to be very careful about where their campaign money is coming from. But that is beside the point. My original point is that Party, Stars et al can not contribute to PACs because they are corporations. PAC money MUST come from personal funds. So any advocacy from the poker sites is going to come in the form of lobbying and grassroots mobilization. The poker sites do not have an easy channel to throw money at politicans.
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Old 02-21-2006, 09:22 AM
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You can't spell = Negative
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Old 02-21-2006, 09:29 AM
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Most political action committee's are made for the the exact purpose of throwing money at politicians. If you think most politicians wont take this money for their re-election campain you are incorrect.

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ALL political action committtees are made for the exact purpose of throwing money at politicians. There a handful of politicans who wont take PAC money at all and given the recent Abramoff scandal many politicans are going to be very careful about where their campaign money is coming from. But that is beside the point. My original point is that Party, Stars et al can not contribute to PACs because they are corporations. PAC money MUST come from personal funds. So any advocacy from the poker sites is going to come in the form of lobbying and grassroots mobilization. The poker sites do not have an easy channel to throw money at politicans.

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I am thinking there are ways around this. Dont know for sure. What party did was offer a 30$ bonus to me if I donated 25 bucks to the PPA. This money did not come from party, it came from me. I am thinking there are loopholes that would allow the poker sites to have a strong PAC and be able to throw some green in the right direction, if it came down to them needing to.
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Old 02-21-2006, 09:59 AM
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200k is not close to enough, these pigs are a long time at the trough.

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