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Old 04-04-2007, 03:59 PM
Cornell Fiji Cornell Fiji is offline
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Default Re: EPT Monte Carlo Trip Report (3rd and Final Part)

I just wanted to chime in and say that the latest flurry of posters knocking this flop call, given the information presented, just don't get it and they will probably never get it.

Having 53% equity is a HUGE edge with 19,000 dead money already in the pot. Given the rationale that PA's preflop range was heavily polarized, and that the top portion of that range would not shove the flop, the only hands that AJ really had to worry about on the flop were AcKc and mid pairs. I think that AJ may be too heavily discountig the prevelance of midpairs here but I was not at the table so who am I to judge.

Given his reads of PA's range AJ's flop call is superstandard. Anyone who is willing to give up on a coinflip when you only need 39% to call with the pot odds can not be optimizing their results.

Now... obtaining the reads that AJ had and using the level of logic that he did to determine PA's range is an elite skill but after he laid all of this information out in these three theads I can't fathom that people are disputing the simplicity of this call given the information that he had at the time.

Now, while I disagree with this point, there is some legitimate justification for the argument to simply call the first time around preflop and to protect your stack for times when you have a greater edge. AJ made the maxcEV decission on every street but that does not mean that his decissions were max$EV.

I disagree with those who say that PA is so good that AJ should have avoided him entirely. In my mind, AJ's point that:
1) he knew how PA plays
2) PA didn't know that AJ knew how he plays,
3) AJ knew what PA thought that he was capable of,
4) PA's assessment of AJ was way off.
means that there is nothing wrong with AJ seeking to play pots against PA as these assumptions give him a huge edge.

AJ,
Is this an fold or a shove if PA leads out for 12k?
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