Ben Roberts Full Tilt Article

[Joey Joe Joe]

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You're a complete idiot. I've logged soooooo many hours with Ben Roberts online and LIVE from 10/20 to 50/100...he is definitely one of the top 5 FTP Pros...very very good, and also quite possibly the nicest guy of all the poker world. Ben is very under the radar and not many people know how good he is.

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He may be the greatest NL player in the history of the universe for all I know. It doesn't change the fact that the statements are just silly. He's either using that type of thinking as a psychological ploy, saying it to generate some controversy and get his name out there, or his logical thinking is a little off. Maybe Ben's not a moron, but some of his statements were moronic.

[Joey Joe Joe]

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It's funny because reading the article what I thought was weird was that he was presenting these thoughts as though they were revolutionary, when I thought it was all just common sense... now here is a thread full of people disagreeing.

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We're disagreeing with things that are ridiculously incorrect. Poker is 0% luck over the course of somebody's life? Puh [censored] lease.

[jimpo]

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This is a graph of 32,000 coin flips.

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Even better would be a graph where each player moves up (down) in stakes once he has "sufficient bankroll" for higher flips. There would be a night and day difference between the best and worst runs.

[Joey Joe Joe]

Nice plots. In the 52% graph, the biggest winner is up more than 600 on the smallest winner. This is on only 8 runs of 32k. If we take runs of 320,0000, 32 million, 32 billion, the difference (in # of tosses won) between the biggest winner and biggest loser will INCREASE. Which "person" is the biggest winner and the biggest loser would likely change, but the difference between the two will increase. This is common sense to many people, but some others disagree vehemently, using the old "it all evens out in the end" argument.

[Joey Joe Joe]

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Even better would be a graph where each player moves up (down) in stakes once he has "sufficient bankroll" for higher flips. There would be a night and day difference between the best and worst runs.

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Agreed. I've done some very basic sims along these lines years ago, and they really are illuminating. I think in the modern era with billions of hand histories out there, some very interesting sims could be done without resorting to the old coin toss.

[dlpnyc21]

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You're a complete idiot. I've logged soooooo many hours with Ben Roberts online and LIVE from 10/20 to 50/100...he is definitely one of the top 5 FTP Pros...very very good, and also quite possibly the nicest guy of all the poker world. Ben is very under the radar and not many people know how good he is.

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I've played a ton of hands with BR and have met him irl and this sums up how I feel too.

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I played with him in person at the Commerce in the 50/100 and 100/200 games and he was absolutely a gentleman at the table and a very agreeable person. Many people came up to say hello and wish him well. He is also training his son to play poker professionally and his son plays on ftp at the lower stakes. He is a long-term cash game winner and has a great personality.