Donkey Test

[mikever]

Please remember to look at www.donkeytest.com

I'm not working for them, but I want to make sure they get sufficient publicity (along with cardrunners.com) since I am using their test as a basis for discussion.

Here is Question 3. The questions do get more difficult as we go along.

[magicratx]

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Please remember to look at www.donkeytest.com

I'm not working for them, but I want to make sure they get sufficient publicity (along with cardrunners.com) since I am using their test as a basis for discussion.

Here is Question 3. The questions do get more difficult as we go along.

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Would help if you knew what the original raiser did here.
But assuming that they folded (actually probably the same if they called), then i would fold (although im a nit) as at best you will be 55%-45% and worst around 20-80 (although the new breed of players may call if they are a coinflip at BEST)

[mikever]

The original middle position raiser folded. It's at the bottom of the question.

[magicratx]

oh yea i see it now, still a fold though given the read here

[DWarrior]

Pot: $25 SB + $1500 BB + $200 Early raiser + $200 yours
$1300 to call

Total pot after call: $3225

Hand 0: 57.240% 57.04% 00.20% 293023920 1012998.00 { QQ+, AQs+, AQo+ }
Hand 1: 42.760% 42.56% 00.20% 218641284 1012998.00 { TT }

3225*.4256=1379.01 call

Hand 0: 59.891% 59.69% 00.20% 343427268 1147962.00 { JJ+, AQs+, AQo+ }
Hand 1: 40.109% 39.91% 00.20% 229610952 1147962.00 { TT }

3225*.40109=1293.51525 close fold

I chose call.

PS, I took this test a while ago, and I remember making a bunch of calls like these based on PStove analysis.

[runout_mick]

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I chose call.

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[Doug Funnie II]

I guess question 3 could also be a call because MPs range for opening then folding is probably AJo, AJs, AQo, AQs 77-JJ so a couple bad cards could be dead.

[Albert Moulton]

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Pot: $25 SB + $1500 BB + $200 Early raiser + $200 yours
$1300 to call

Total pot after call: $3225

Hand 0: 57.240% 57.04% 00.20% 293023920 1012998.00 { QQ+, AQs+, AQo+ }
Hand 1: 42.760% 42.56% 00.20% 218641284 1012998.00 { TT }

3225*.4256=1379.01 call

Hand 0: 59.891% 59.69% 00.20% 343427268 1147962.00 { JJ+, AQs+, AQo+ }
Hand 1: 40.109% 39.91% 00.20% 229610952 1147962.00 { TT }

3225*.40109=1293.51525 close fold

I chose call.

PS, I took this test a while ago, and I remember making a bunch of calls like these based on PStove analysis.

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I said call because it looks a lot like the short stack is making a squeeze play, so his range is probably a lot wider than the AK/AQ and JJ-AA that I've "seen" so far. So, the analysis that shows it's a close call if he does have AK/AQ and JJ-AA + the fact that he is in premium position to make a squeeze play with something like 87s, I call.

[mikever]

So I guess what we can say about Question 3 at this point is that it's a close decision, but maybe leaning toward a call?

When I am at the table and don't have pokerstove available, what thought process should I follow to make this decision?

[godofPOPOV]

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Pot: $25 SB + $1500 BB + $200 Early raiser + $200 yours
$1300 to call

Total pot after call: $3225

Hand 0: 57.240% 57.04% 00.20% 293023920 1012998.00 { QQ+, AQs+, AQo+ }
Hand 1: 42.760% 42.56% 00.20% 218641284 1012998.00 { TT }

3225*.4256=1379.01 call

Hand 0: 59.891% 59.69% 00.20% 343427268 1147962.00 { JJ+, AQs+, AQo+ }
Hand 1: 40.109% 39.91% 00.20% 229610952 1147962.00 { TT }

3225*.40109=1293.51525 close fold


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will you explain all these numbers a little bit more?
i just got poker stove and am not sure the analysis you went through but would like to understand it