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03-22-2007, 06:23 PM
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Re: Tubby Smith resigns, taking Minnesota job
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] 7 NCAA titles 43 SEC regular season titles in 87 years (841-231) 25 SEC tourney titles in 47 years (110-20) 46 All-Americans (15 consensous) [/ QUOTE ] And at one time, the sun never set on the British Empire. In the mind of an 18 year old recruit, how much does all that matter? [/ QUOTE ] that is the million dollar question How well can the coach convey that message to potential recruits? Looking at Self and Kansas, I say it can go pretty far. [/ QUOTE ] You don't sell today's players on 'ancient' history. You sell them on the future. You really think Self uses Danny Manning or Jo Jo White as examples in his recruiting? 
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03-22-2007, 06:24 PM
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Re: Tubby Smith resigns, taking Minnesota job
considering Manning is one of his top assistants...yeah
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03-22-2007, 06:31 PM
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Re: Tubby Smith resigns, taking Minnesota job
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considering Manning is one of his top assistants...yeah [/ QUOTE ] Ok, I'm a bit out of the loop there. But, do you think that registers with an 18 yr old? More than the last 10 years of your program? More than the realistic chance at playing minutes? More than 'connecting' with the coach and assistants?
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#4
03-22-2007, 06:38 PM
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Re: Tubby Smith resigns, taking Minnesota job
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[ QUOTE ] considering Manning is one of his top assistants...yeah [/ QUOTE ] Ok, I'm a bit out of the loop there. But, do you think that registers with an 18 yr old? More than the last 10 years of your program? More than the realistic chance at playing minutes? More than 'connecting' with the coach and assistants? [/ QUOTE ] I think the history gets the foot in the door- a lot of doors. From there, it comes down to other things. History also helps with fan base and exposure presentations that coaches make to recruits. It's very important for a young man to be aware of the school. There is a reason Carolina, Duke, Kentucky, Kansas, and UCLA can grab a kid from just about anywhere in the country. The kid is *aware* of those schools.
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03-22-2007, 06:38 PM
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Re: Tubby Smith resigns, taking Minnesota job
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[ QUOTE ] considering Manning is one of his top assistants...yeah [/ QUOTE ] Ok, I'm a bit out of the loop there. But, do you think that registers with an 18 yr old? More than the last 10 years of your program? More than the realistic chance at playing minutes? More than 'connecting' with the coach and assistants? [/ QUOTE ] its not the only thing but its part of it. a guy like jrue holiday visiting unc when they had the celebration of past guys at halftime definitly scored points for unc. you think a kid getting the chance to meet nba all stars every once in a while won't have an impact?
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03-22-2007, 06:32 PM
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Re: Tubby Smith resigns, taking Minnesota job
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] 7 NCAA titles 43 SEC regular season titles in 87 years (841-231) 25 SEC tourney titles in 47 years (110-20) 46 All-Americans (15 consensous) [/ QUOTE ] And at one time, the sun never set on the British Empire. In the mind of an 18 year old recruit, how much does all that matter? [/ QUOTE ] that is the million dollar question How well can the coach convey that message to potential recruits? Looking at Self and Kansas, I say it can go pretty far. [/ QUOTE ] You don't sell today's players on 'ancient' history. You sell them on the future. You really think Self uses Danny Manning or Jo Jo White as examples in his recruiting? [/ QUOTE ] i think history plays a crucial role in recruiting. obviously along with many other factors, like current team players, facilities, coaches, area, education etc... but don't discount a schools history during the recruiting process like it's a non-factor, thats insane.
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#7
03-22-2007, 06:39 PM
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Re: Tubby Smith resigns, taking Minnesota job
Whenever traditional big time powers have downspells (Notre Dame/Alabama football, Kentucky basketball, etc.)
there are always people over-stating how "dead" the programs are and people over-stating how "super awesome top tier" they are. The truth lies somewhere in between. Traditional powers can go dormant for long stretches. Oklahoma football was the suck for 15 or so years and they have been a consistent top 10 (usually top 5 title contender) the last 8 or so. The days of a few schools completely dominating are over. But the traditional powers in all sports still have a leg up on the non-traditional powers. The tradition usually means more fan support and more money for the program.
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#8
03-22-2007, 06:40 PM
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Re: Tubby Smith resigns, taking Minnesota job
I just hope we get a coach that can manage to recruit this time around.
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#9
03-22-2007, 06:45 PM
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Re: Tubby Smith resigns, taking Minnesota job
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I just hope we get a coach that can manage to recruit this time around. [/ QUOTE ] I thought Kentucky always got like 1-2 McDonalds All-Americans every year? I'll admit I am out of the recruiting loop, so you are telling me Tubby was a bad recruiter?
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#10
03-22-2007, 06:49 PM
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Re: Tubby Smith resigns, taking Minnesota job
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[ QUOTE ] I just hope we get a coach that can manage to recruit this time around. [/ QUOTE ] I thought Kentucky always got like 1-2 McDonalds All-Americans every year? I'll admit I am out of the recruiting loop, so you are telling me Tubby was a bad recruiter? [/ QUOTE ] We had one nice year where we got Rondo, Morris and Crawford. Rondo left after two years, Morris tried to leave after one, and Crawford has been less than stellar. Other than that year we haven't had a strong recruiting class
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