KK with Not One, but TWO Aces on the Flop! *Play along*!

[BombayBadboy]

Checking flop looks good.

[Suigin406]

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Checking flop looks good.

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i like a check too here, i don't think raising does us much good here as a lot of hands will reraise us thinking we don't have much...also, even a call is likely from a lot of pairs...too much stuff to narrow down and we have a bad spot again on turn then...

[Symbolic]

I check the flop too.

[FishSticks]

I'd def call the flop. Unsure about the plan for the rest of the hand - but I think with your image he could be doing this with any ace, a flush draw, and mid pockets, and I think there's a reasonable chance he doesn't 2barrel a flush draw and midpockets if you call and take a turn.

[FishSticks]

For the flop checkers, a tightish guy cold called us - so before the flop action occurs, we have to assume that his most likely holdings are a good ace or mid pockets, maybe an SC. If we're not betting, we're missing a good chance to get value out of a hand like 99. Tons of turn cards can kill all action we'd get from the hands we're ahead of - so I do like betting this flop.

[Suigin406]

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For the flop checkers, a tightish guy cold called us - so before the flop action occurs, we have to assume that his most likely holdings are a good ace or mid pockets, maybe an SC. If we're not betting, we're missing a good chance to get value out of a hand like 99. Tons of turn cards can kill all action we'd get from the hands we're ahead of - so I do like betting this flop.

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i see ur point, but if we bet flop and he calls, what are our plans for the rest of the hand OOP?? i guess we lead turn then to avoid villian from getting too aggressive??

[prepare4glory]

call

post count, yo.

I actually just call here, that is, if I bet the flop. Sure there is a flush draw but with a hand like KK we don't have to worry about anything here and I'd rather let villain take a little bit of control or even let it get checked through and try to let villain hit a 2nd best hand or take his PP too far.

I agree we can't fold to the min-raise. But. I also think it is an A a sig % of the time. And that's a bad spot to be in.

Thus I'd check, I generally want to play a smaller pot here. After raising pf and bet/calling the flop we are risking a large chunk of our stack. Unless we are folding to a turn bet, in which case I'd think about whether or not you want to call that flop bet, since unless it's a heart (actually, if it is we might need to call given the K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]) there are essentially no scare cards.

[Redd]

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Checking flop looks good.

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i like a check too here, i don't think raising does us much good here as a lot of hands will reraise us thinking we don't have much...also, even a call is likely from a lot of pairs...too much stuff to narrow down and we have a bad spot again on turn then...

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Man checking this flop is sooo January '07. IMHO He'll call with 77-JJ here if we have a decent CB%. As played, I'd call raise and usually end up folding to his turn bet.

[BombayBadboy]

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Checking flop looks good.

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i like a check too here, i don't think raising does us much good here as a lot of hands will reraise us thinking we don't have much...also, even a call is likely from a lot of pairs...too much stuff to narrow down and we have a bad spot again on turn then...

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Man checking this flop is sooo January '07. IMHO He'll call with 77-JJ here if we have a decent CB%. As played, I'd call raise and usually end up folding to his turn bet.

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Tell me why we can't extract value out of said hands by inducing bluffs on later streets. They don't have to call us, they can do the betting for us, too. Plus we keep the potsize manageable. We don't want to play a big pot here.

[Abramovic]

I prefer checking flop here OOP, if we had position, betting flop would be better as we could manage pot size better on turn/river.