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Old 03-20-2007, 01:35 AM
TheWorstPlayer TheWorstPlayer is offline
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I disagree that the 'best regulars' should be ranked by win rate. Money per hour is probably the most meaningful measure of 'best player' for a given level. But the guy who grinds out 2ptbb/100 on 20 tables is pretty boring to talk about. And the guy who can win at 10ptbb/100 but only by table selecting like mad on one table on weekends is also pretty boring to talk about. The guys who are interesting to talk about are the guy who take creative lines, are difficult to hand read against, are good hand readers, use position well, etc. If I just wanted to know the results of data mining, I would just data mine.
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Old 03-20-2007, 01:51 AM
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I disagree that the 'best regulars' should be ranked by win rate. Money per hour is probably the most meaningful measure of 'best player' for a given level. But the guy who grinds out 2ptbb/100 on 20 tables is pretty boring to talk about. And the guy who can win at 10ptbb/100 but only by table selecting like mad on one table on weekends is also pretty boring to talk about. The guys who are interesting to talk about are the guy who take creative lines, are difficult to hand read against, are good hand readers, use position well, etc. If I just wanted to know the results of data mining, I would just data mine.

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Most of those 20 tablers don't make 2 pt/bb, they basically breakeven (essentially they are old time "props") and the 2 tablers never log enough hands to be even considered on an objective scale. Funny thing is that often times the people with the best winrates and who have won the most often times have the qualities you described as being a "good player." Find a datamine over a significant data sample and look at the top 5 players, they will be doing interesting innovated stuff that's fun to talk about.

A persons individual perception of a player is based on several hundred to several thousand hands. Players mainly attribute the best regs to the people who have ran the hottest against them and the worst regs to the people who have run the coldest. I really don't think these types of threads generate much discussion, other than people bashing other players because their experience differed from other people.
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Old 03-20-2007, 01:52 AM
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Im kingsofcards

Thoughts

Just getting back to 2/4 after a weird couple of months. Also from the little ive played over the past couple months I think 2/4 has gotten way softer then it was when online ban first came out.
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Old 03-20-2007, 05:03 AM
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I hate playing against you cuz you play well oop.
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