Killing off the little guy (this time it's internet radio)

[Brainwalter]

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If the ideas aren't scarce, is the time and resources devoted to creating, recording and reproducing them scarce?

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Of course.

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Wouldn't it make sense to protect the value of the time and resources spent on creative works?

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The idea is that people can protect their own valuable time and efforts. I don't feel like helping protect Britney Spears' time and efforts.

[Skidoo]

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The idea is that people can protect their own valuable time and efforts. I don't feel like helping protect Britney Spears' time and efforts.

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To the extent that the market value of creative innovation is unprotected, and thus effectively redistributed through collectivization, the incentives for such activity disappear.

[Brainwalter]

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The idea is that people can protect their own valuable time and efforts. I don't feel like helping protect Britney Spears' time and efforts.

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To the extent that the market value of creative innovation is unprotected, and thus effectively redistributed through collectivization, the incentives for such activity disappear.

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I think I have a response to this but I would like you to rephrase it first, that is a confusing sentence.

[bobman0330]

To relate back to the original point, if some contractual form of copyright protection would exist in ACland, why wouldn't we expect to see exactly this result? The RIAA would still own all or nearly all of the copyrights (having a collective bargaining agent is more efficient than each artist handing licensing and enforcement on his own), and they would still feel threatened by the internet radio paradigm. So what's to prevent them from charging whatever royalties they want?

[BCPVP]

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The idea is that people can protect their own valuable time and efforts. I don't feel like helping protect Britney Spears' time and efforts.

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To the extent that the market value of creative innovation is unprotected, and thus effectively redistributed through collectivization, the incentives for such activity disappear.

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Perhaps you can explain how people have been inventing since the dawn of time if they had no incentive to do so.

[pvn]

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The idea is that people can protect their own valuable time and efforts. I don't feel like helping protect Britney Spears' time and efforts.

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To the extent that the market value of creative innovation is unprotected, and thus effectively redistributed through collectivization, the incentives for such activity disappear.

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So what? My incentive to mow lawns disappears when I don't have a government imposing a rule that any time I mow a lawn everyone must pay me $200,000.

[Skidoo]

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The idea is that people can protect their own valuable time and efforts. I don't feel like helping protect Britney Spears' time and efforts.

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To the extent that the market value of creative innovation is unprotected, and thus effectively redistributed through collectivization, the incentives for such activity disappear.

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So what? My incentive to mow lawns disappears when I don't have a government imposing a rule that any time I mow a lawn everyone must pay me $200,000.

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No, your incentive to invent and market the first lawnmower disappears when anyone else can just copy the idea and set up shop as your competition.

[pvn]

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The idea is that people can protect their own valuable time and efforts. I don't feel like helping protect Britney Spears' time and efforts.

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To the extent that the market value of creative innovation is unprotected, and thus effectively redistributed through collectivization, the incentives for such activity disappear.

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So what? My incentive to mow lawns disappears when I don't have a government imposing a rule that any time I mow a lawn everyone must pay me $200,000.

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No, your incentive to invent and market the first lawnmower disappears when anyone else can just copy the idea and set up shop as your competition.

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And last time I checked, there are plenty of lawnmowers being produced.

[Nielsio]

I'm pretty sure our technology is retarded compared to what some aliens have.

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I'm pretty sure our technology is retarded compared to what some aliens have.

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We better not invent anything cool, or they'll sue us for violating the inherent contract. After all, why would they bother developing warp drive if we could just go and invent it ourselves???