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Old 03-08-2007, 03:52 PM
NeBlis NeBlis is offline
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I have no objection to this. So why didn't you use that contract in your demo tape example?

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All artists use this contract all the time even without knowing they are doing it its called copyright.
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Old 03-08-2007, 04:03 PM
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I call it an "ice cream cone". I start collecting some money and materials to build my ice cream cone stand, and right across the street someone else opens a "Ice Cream Conicals." Now I can't open my store because it looks like a rip off. And I'm screwed because my deal was to make money off of the ice cream cone sales

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"Ice Cream Conicals." from a different source is not the the same as your "ice cream cone" from your stand. If i come and take your "ice cream cone" and then sell it as my own thats theft right?

I beleive your are confusing patent with copyright. A crappy song is not a scarce concept but "OOPS I did it again" by Britany Spears IS (thankfully) a scarce idea. You can make all the crappy bublegum songs you want but you cannot steal from Briteny and sell her songs.
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Old 03-08-2007, 04:07 PM
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A crappy song is not a scarce concept but "OOPS I did it again" by Britany Spears IS (thankfully) a scarce idea.

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Demonstrably false.
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Old 03-08-2007, 04:09 PM
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I call it an "ice cream cone". I start collecting some money and materials to build my ice cream cone stand, and right across the street someone else opens a "Ice Cream Conicals." Now I can't open my store because it looks like a rip off. And I'm screwed because my deal was to make money off of the ice cream cone sales

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"Ice Cream Conicals." from a different source is not the the same as your "ice cream cone" from your stand. If i come and take your "ice cream cone" and then sell it as my own thats theft right?

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No. It might be breach of contract IF we had a contract that specified he wouldn't engage in such a business. But there's no theft; I still have everything I had before the imposter set up his business.

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I beleive your are confusing patent with copyright. A crappy song is not a scarce concept but "OOPS I did it again" by Britany Spears IS (thankfully) a scarce idea. You can make all the crappy bublegum songs you want but you cannot steal from Briteny and sell her songs.

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No, neither are scarce. I can copy a crappy song just as easily as oops I did it again.

And if you read the thread, I have zero problem with copyright (in theory - particular implementations are another thing).
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Old 03-08-2007, 04:17 PM
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You can make all the crappy bublegum songs you want but you cannot steal from Briteny and sell her songs.

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I like how you try to compare a vague class of things to a particular instance.

Also, you are conflating the issue of scarcity with copyright (and possibly fraud, though I'm not sure).

Please demonstrate why "oops I did it again" is scarce. When you mentioned it to me, did you instantly forget about it?
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Old 03-08-2007, 04:10 PM
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I have no objection to this. So why didn't you use that contract in your demo tape example?

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All artists use this contract all the time even without knowing they are doing it its called copyright.

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So all you'd have to do here is only demo the tape for those who agree to your terms. Wow, that was hard.
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