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Old 03-07-2007, 01:41 PM
Grunch Grunch is offline
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I guess basically it comes down to what you think is fair personally and what isnt

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You're right, that is what it should come down to. You seem to be confusing what's fair and what's in your best interests however. The agreement you made was to prepay X$ for sessions. You paid the money and the sessions have been made available to you. Your agreement is fulfilled. There was no stipulation that you could get a refund on unused sessions, and therefore no such stipulation exists. There is nothing unfair about you not recieving a refund for sessions you don't use.

That's not to say that refunding your money wouldn't be in both of your best interests. Yours because you get your money back, snobank's because negative word of mouth is 10 times more effective than positive word of mouth, and reputations are often impossible to repair once damaged.

It's unfortunate that this went down this way. Don't make it worse than it has to be by taking a "if I'm going down I'm taking you with me" attitude. Argue for what you want, but do so in an adult manner. If you don't get what you want, take it like a man.
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Old 03-07-2007, 01:55 PM
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That's not to say that refunding your money wouldn't be in both of your best interests. Yours because you get your money back, snobank's because negative word of mouth is 10 times more effective than positive word of mouth, and reputations are often impossible to repair once damaged.



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I dont think he is wrong for not wanting to give a refund but I doubt others will want his coaching given he obviously cares more about a little bit of money then being a flexible and understanding businessman. Makes me wonder if i dealt with him would he be flexible about anything else or do I have to listen to his every demand.
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Old 03-07-2007, 02:03 PM
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I guess basically it comes down to what you think is fair personally and what isnt

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You're right, that is what it should come down to. You seem to be confusing what's fair and what's in your best interests however. The agreement you made was to prepay X$ for sessions. You paid the money and the sessions have been made available to you. Your agreement is fulfilled. There was no stipulation that you could get a refund on unused sessions, and therefore no such stipulation exists. There is nothing unfair about you not recieving a refund for sessions you don't use.

That's not to say that refunding your money wouldn't be in both of your best interests. Yours because you get your money back, snobank's because negative word of mouth is 10 times more effective than positive word of mouth, and reputations are often impossible to repair once damaged.


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agreed.

i don't want to explain the physics of it, but you know the sound when you open a can of soda? that's the sound of buying a whole soda.

it'd be a very nice gesture if snowbank gave the money back, but this is the difference between buying x sessions and buying 1 at a time. don't act like you're entitled to a refund.
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Old 03-07-2007, 02:05 PM
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i don't want to explain the physics of it, but you know the sound when you open a can of soda? that's the sound of buying a whole soda.


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Also, if you 'agree' to pay for services in advance and those services are poor or not as advertised you dont think you deserve your money back? If you pay a construction worker up front to build you a circle pool and he builds half a square above ground pool and you say "listen keep the money I paid for what you did, but refund me for unused services b/c this is not what I want" you dont think you should get money back? And like above he says "well all my other clients liked my square above ground pool...FU see ya"
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Old 03-07-2007, 02:08 PM
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i don't want to explain the physics of it, but you know the sound when you open a can of soda? that's the sound of buying a whole soda.


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Also, if you 'agree' to pay for services in advance and those services are poor or not as advertised you dont think you deserve your money back? If you pay a construction worker up front to build you a circle pool and he builds half a square above ground pool and you say "listen keep the money I paid for what you did, but refund me for unused services b/c this is not what I want" you dont think you should get money back? And like above he says "well all my other clients liked my square above ground pool...FU see ya"

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This is your fault for blindly giving someone, whose style you do not know, 1/4 of your roll for coaching sessions. Maybe you should've looked into how he played/coached before you went so far as to give him 5 sessions at once.
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Old 03-07-2007, 04:18 PM
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If he builds the whole pool (or is offering to) then you dont have a "right" to get your money back.

The same is true if they are halfway through building the pool and you now decide the pool isnt going to turn out quite how you want it.


If you dont want a whole pool dont buy one.
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