Speeding Cameras

[andyfox]

I assume the argument is that once people get used to the fact that there are cameras all over the place, they will not speed as often and thus the roads are safer. My son, who is a cop, tells me that the incidences of people running red lights here in L.A., where there are a lot of cameras installed on the corners, is down markedly since they were installed. [I have not seen the stats, so I'm taking him at his word about this.]

I don't see what right you believe is being taken away by the use of cameras. I can see an argument to be made about whether the practice does indeed increase safety or whether it doesn't.

Again, what about the use of radar to determine rate of speed? Are you against that as well? How about two cops, one at point X noting the time you are there, another at point Y noting the time you are there, and then using math to determine if you must have been speeding?

For the sake of the discusssion, let's assume all of these things would indeed make the roads safer.

[Meech]

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I don't see what right you believe is being taken away by the use of cameras. I can see an argument to be made about whether the practice does indeed increase safety or whether it doesn't.

Again, what about the use of radar to determine rate of speed? Are you against that as well? How about two cops, one at point X noting the time you are there, another at point Y noting the time you are there, and then using math to determine if you must have been speeding?

For the sake of the discusssion, let's assume all of these things would indeed make the roads safer.

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I don't wanna wake up in 10 years only receive a email containing a bill for traveling avg 7.45 mph over the speed limit for 126.25 miles at the current rate of $xx/mph/mile.

It feels a lot more like a cash register than a safety device.

I don't wanna be watched/monitored by big brother.

If they want to actively police, and catch me speeding -- fine.

[andyfox]

I don't see the difference between "actively" policing and using available technology. At a retail store, there are surveillance cameras and an alarm that goes off if I attempt to walk out with something I didn't pay for.

[Meech]

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I don't see the difference between "actively" policing and using available technology. At a retail store, there are surveillance cameras and an alarm that goes off if I attempt to walk out with something I didn't pay for.

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I see it as a huge difference.

I consent to being monitored when I walk in the store.

[andyfox]

You use the public roads you consent to following the laws that attend to that usage and the means of enforcement. Those laws are made by our elected represenstives and, if you don't like the law, you can try to change them and/or those representatives that drafted and enacted them.

Is radar "active policing"? How about positioning two cops at two points and figuring out if you were speeding by using math?

[bkholdem]

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I don't see the difference between "actively" policing and using available technology. At a retail store, there are surveillance cameras and an alarm that goes off if I attempt to walk out with something I didn't pay for.

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Might as well install video cameras in all our brains that way we will catch every theif and every murderer 100% of the time.

[andyfox]

There's a difference between installing video cameras in our brains and a camera on a street corner.

[AzDesertRat]

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There's a difference between installing video cameras in our brains and a camera on a street corner.

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How about on every street corner?

[bkholdem]

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There's a difference between installing video cameras in our brains and a camera on a street corner.

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Yes there is and that difference is a matter of degree of intrusiveness into our lives.