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Old 03-01-2007, 04:37 PM
BrandonT858 BrandonT858 is offline
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Why in the world not? You're engaging in behavior that the owners of the roads have decided is unsafe. If you don't like it, find someone else to own the roads.

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LOL I am assume you feel it is safe to drive 65 in all lanes of the highway. Like someone else mentioned these cameras just force people to slam on brakes and people just speed up right after the camera. I am all for keeping the roads safe, but come on guys having the police take a picture and then send it to you saying you were speeding is just BS.

These cameras don't do anything but generate revenue and do not protect the roads. Our rights our being taken away one by one and I feel that complying with this type of law enforcement will only help in the reduction of our freedoms in the future.
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Old 03-01-2007, 04:46 PM
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Why in the world not? You're engaging in behavior that the owners of the roads have decided is unsafe. If you don't like it, find someone else to own the roads.

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LOL I am assume you feel it is safe to drive 65 in all lanes of the highway. Like someone else mentioned these cameras just force people to slam on brakes and people just speed up right after the camera. I am all for keeping the roads safe, but come on guys having the police take a picture and then send it to you saying you were speeding is just BS.

These cameras don't do anything but generate revenue and do not protect the roads. Our rights our being taken away one by one and I feel that complying with this type of law enforcement will only help in the reduction of our freedoms in the future.

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Exactly. IMO this is an infringement upon the right for civil humans to be left alone. I drive every day and very, very rarely see someone driving recklessly/unsafely. This is simply a way to further milk us of our freedom (money and privacy and diginity).
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Old 03-01-2007, 08:08 PM
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I assume the argument is that once people get used to the fact that there are cameras all over the place, they will not speed as often and thus the roads are safer. My son, who is a cop, tells me that the incidences of people running red lights here in L.A., where there are a lot of cameras installed on the corners, is down markedly since they were installed. [I have not seen the stats, so I'm taking him at his word about this.]

I don't see what right you believe is being taken away by the use of cameras. I can see an argument to be made about whether the practice does indeed increase safety or whether it doesn't.

Again, what about the use of radar to determine rate of speed? Are you against that as well? How about two cops, one at point X noting the time you are there, another at point Y noting the time you are there, and then using math to determine if you must have been speeding?

For the sake of the discusssion, let's assume all of these things would indeed make the roads safer.
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Old 03-01-2007, 11:46 PM
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I don't see what right you believe is being taken away by the use of cameras. I can see an argument to be made about whether the practice does indeed increase safety or whether it doesn't.

Again, what about the use of radar to determine rate of speed? Are you against that as well? How about two cops, one at point X noting the time you are there, another at point Y noting the time you are there, and then using math to determine if you must have been speeding?

For the sake of the discusssion, let's assume all of these things would indeed make the roads safer.

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I don't wanna wake up in 10 years only receive a email containing a bill for traveling avg 7.45 mph over the speed limit for 126.25 miles at the current rate of $xx/mph/mile.

It feels a lot more like a cash register than a safety device.

I don't wanna be watched/monitored by big brother.

If they want to actively police, and catch me speeding -- fine.
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Old 03-01-2007, 11:56 PM
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I don't see the difference between "actively" policing and using available technology. At a retail store, there are surveillance cameras and an alarm that goes off if I attempt to walk out with something I didn't pay for.
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Old 03-02-2007, 12:03 AM
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I don't see the difference between "actively" policing and using available technology. At a retail store, there are surveillance cameras and an alarm that goes off if I attempt to walk out with something I didn't pay for.

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I see it as a huge difference.

I consent to being monitored when I walk in the store.
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Old 03-02-2007, 02:06 AM
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You use the public roads you consent to following the laws that attend to that usage and the means of enforcement. Those laws are made by our elected represenstives and, if you don't like the law, you can try to change them and/or those representatives that drafted and enacted them.

Is radar "active policing"? How about positioning two cops at two points and figuring out if you were speeding by using math?
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Old 03-02-2007, 02:33 AM
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I don't see the difference between "actively" policing and using available technology. At a retail store, there are surveillance cameras and an alarm that goes off if I attempt to walk out with something I didn't pay for.

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Might as well install video cameras in all our brains that way we will catch every theif and every murderer 100% of the time.
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Old 03-02-2007, 01:37 PM
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There's a difference between installing video cameras in our brains and a camera on a street corner.
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Old 03-02-2007, 01:46 PM
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There's a difference between installing video cameras in our brains and a camera on a street corner.

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How about on every street corner?
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