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Old 03-01-2007, 01:06 PM
AzDesertRat AzDesertRat is offline
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Try living in Arizona--we have them on a stretch of freeway going through Scottsdale in addition to the cameras at red lights and vans. Rumor is they want to try to put them on ALL of Arizona's freeways through a referendum next year.

A huge problem IMO as this is driven by revenues not safety and is a pet peeve of mine. I follow a site/blog called thenewspaper.com and it follows the topic very closely. I bought a license cover for $25 and that keeps me insulated from the tickets, but still pi$$es me off. Police should be around for public safety NOT as a revenue source. [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]
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Old 03-01-2007, 01:10 PM
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Try living in Arizona--we have them on a stretch of freeway going through Scottsdale in addition to the cameras at red lights and vans. Rumor is they want to try to put them on ALL of Arizona's freeways through a referendum next year.

A huge problem IMO as this is driven by revenues not safety and is a pet peeve of mine. I follow a site/blog called thenewspaper.com and it follows the topic very closely. I bought a license cover for $25 and that keeps me insulated from the tickets, but still pi$$es me off. Police should be around for public safety NOT as a revenue source. [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

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Perhaps a solution to this is to make all fines due to traffic tickets go towards some fund for victums of automobile crashes, or something OTHER than the police departments. This would make this a public safety issue rather than funding issue pretty fast.
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Old 03-01-2007, 01:16 PM
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Try living in Arizona--we have them on a stretch of freeway going through Scottsdale in addition to the cameras at red lights and vans. Rumor is they want to try to put them on ALL of Arizona's freeways through a referendum next year.

A huge problem IMO as this is driven by revenues not safety and is a pet peeve of mine. I follow a site/blog called thenewspaper.com and it follows the topic very closely. I bought a license cover for $25 and that keeps me insulated from the tickets, but still pi$$es me off. Police should be around for public safety NOT as a revenue source. [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

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Perhaps a solution to this is to make all fines due to traffic tickets go towards some fund for victums of automobile crashes, or something OTHER than the police departments. This would make this a public safety issue rather than funding issue pretty fast.

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Right now the fines go into the general fund for the town/city/municipality and is also split with private company putting and maintaining these things. If you were to change where the funds go, you would rapidly lose support for these things from these jurisdictions and they wouldn't be around any more.

It's not about safety, it's about the money--anyone who says otherwise is either completely ignorant or is trying to sell you something.
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Old 03-01-2007, 02:41 PM
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Try living in Arizona--we have them on a stretch of freeway going through Scottsdale in addition to the cameras at red lights and vans. Rumor is they want to try to put them on ALL of Arizona's freeways through a referendum next year.

A huge problem IMO as this is driven by revenues not safety and is a pet peeve of mine. I follow a site/blog called thenewspaper.com and it follows the topic very closely. I bought a license cover for $25 and that keeps me insulated from the tickets, but still pi$$es me off. Police should be around for public safety NOT as a revenue source. [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

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Perhaps a solution to this is to make all fines due to traffic tickets go towards some fund for victums of automobile crashes, or something OTHER than the police departments. This would make this a public safety issue rather than funding issue pretty fast.

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I have no idea if this particular case is profitable, but schemes like this have actually driven down State revenues before.
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Old 03-01-2007, 03:09 PM
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The answer is obvious.

Speeders contribute to terrorism.

(I'm opposed to this type of big brother monitoring, fwiw.)
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Old 03-01-2007, 03:11 PM
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(I'm opposed to this type of big brother monitoring, fwiw.)

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Are you equally opposed to a casino's security cameras?
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Old 03-01-2007, 03:19 PM
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(I'm opposed to this type of big brother monitoring, fwiw.)

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Are you equally opposed to a casino's security cameras?

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private -vs- public
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Old 03-01-2007, 03:36 PM
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(I'm opposed to this type of big brother monitoring, fwiw.)

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Are you equally opposed to a casino's security cameras?

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private -vs- public

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Without arguing the legitimacy of taxation or the government: you're opposed to: the public--through tax dollars--building a road, then the public--through the government--deciding that there should be a maximum speed on these roads, and then finally the public--through tax dollars again--paying someone to enforce those rules. Is that correct?
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