Can long-term hard drug usage improve your life?

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So obviously Heroin is probably ALWAYS -e.v.,

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What? Heroin/opiates are the only hard drug that has no harmful effects on the body other than it is highly addictive.

[pete fabrizio]

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So obviously Heroin is probably ALWAYS -e.v.,

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What? Heroin/opiates are the only hard drug that has no harmful effects on the body other than it is highly addictive.

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Fine, but does anyone use heroin regularly without ruining their life?

[firstyearclay]

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So obviously Heroin is probably ALWAYS -e.v.,

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What? Heroin/opiates are the only hard drug that has no harmful effects on the body other than it is highly addictive.

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Fine, but does anyone use heroin regularly without ruining their life?

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I would of just ignored that comment. I have seen a couple recovering Heroin addicts. What it did to their bodies was disgusting.

fyc

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I have done LSD between 5 and 10 times from the age of 18-23. Everytime I did this drug, I always came to major conclusions about myself, my life and my surroundings during the self revelation period that always comes towards the end of any hallucigenic. These conslusions always made me a better person and I truly believe that I am the person I am today for the better because of my acid use. I know this might not answer the question as OP seems to be referring to hard drug use consistently over a long time frame and not 2x a year for 5 years but I still think this is an example of hard drugs allowing for something positive. Plus I tripped balls everytime which is cool.

[registrar]

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Plus I tripped balls everytime which is cool.

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What does this mean?

[pete fabrizio]

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I have done LSD between 5 and 10 times from the age of 18-23. Everytime I did this drug, I always came to major conclusions about myself, my life and my surroundings during the self revelation period that always comes towards the end of any hallucigenic. These conslusions always made me a better person and I truly believe that I am the person I am today for the better because of my acid use. I know this might not answer the question as OP seems to be referring to hard drug use consistently over a long time frame and not 2x a year for 5 years but I still think this is an example of hard drugs allowing for something positive. Plus I tripped balls everytime which is cool.

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This is actually kind of the sort of thing I'm looking for. I.e., if someone resolved to do LSD just a couple times a year until they grew out of it (very moderate use), could the expected benefit of that experience outweigh the risk of the plan failing and them screwing up their life?

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Yes. LSD was mind-blowing. It was the first drug I ever took. I was 16. You listen to Rubber Soul and then you listen to Revolver and you think I'll have some of that and it was really a life changing trip.

That said, my best mate went mad and even now lives with his folks (he's 36) and another friend saw something so ineffably transcendent he could't come back and took his life within 48 hours (not the same trips)

I repeat that, IMO, you only 'need' to do it once. It opens doors. Taking it again just opens the same doors and those doors never really close anyway.

[pushpushshove]

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I have done LSD between 5 and 10 times from the age of 18-23. Everytime I did this drug, I always came to major conclusions about myself, my life and my surroundings during the self revelation period that always comes towards the end of any hallucigenic. These conslusions always made me a better person and I truly believe that I am the person I am today for the better because of my acid use. I know this might not answer the question as OP seems to be referring to hard drug use consistently over a long time frame and not 2x a year for 5 years but I still think this is an example of hard drugs allowing for something positive. Plus I tripped balls everytime which is cool.

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I've eaten much more acid than this (like a couple hundred trips, prolly 1k+ doses) and I believe that the notion that acid "makes you a better person" is ridiculous. I've heard things along these lines from many people over the years and I've always thought it was just plain weird. Maybe I've spent enough time thinking about my surroundings, the world, and life in general when I'm not tripping that there's not a whole lot left to discover while I'm hallucinating. I don't know, but to me acid is just a fun drug, nothing more.

Also, there are too many people calling acid a "hard" drug.

To answer OP's question: No. While I believe all drugs should be legal, I also believe that we'd all be much better off if they didn't exist.

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So obviously Heroin is probably ALWAYS -e.v.,

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What? Heroin/opiates are the only hard drug that has no harmful effects on the body other than it is highly addictive.

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Fine, but does anyone use heroin regularly without ruining their life?

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I would of just ignored that comment. I have seen a couple recovering Heroin addicts. What it did to their bodies was disgusting.

fyc

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i 'would of' kept my mouth shut if i didn't know what i was talking about. ADDICTION caused those people to engage in risky behaviors, neglect themselves, share needles, etc. HEROIN itself has literally zero negative effects on the body or brain, even over a long period of heavy use.

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So obviously Heroin is probably ALWAYS -e.v.,

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What? Heroin/opiates are the only hard drug that has no harmful effects on the body other than it is highly addictive.

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Fine, but does anyone use heroin regularly without ruining their life?

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I would of just ignored that comment. I have seen a couple recovering Heroin addicts. What it did to their bodies was disgusting.

fyc

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i 'would of' kept my mouth shut if i didn't know what i was talking about. ADDICTION caused those people to engage in risky behaviors, neglect themselves, share needles, etc. HEROIN itself has literally zero negative effects on the body or brain, even over a long period of heavy use.

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What about withdrawal effects?