Daniel N. lacks pure poker skills?

[alphatmw]

.....you're such a [censored] moron.

answer this. "i believe DN is a (winner / loser) in the big games"

[Ribsauce]

I can't believe how much you guys hate on him. There is like 10 threads in this forum about how DN is the worst poker player in the world and everything

[Orlando Salazar]

he's an admitted loser in the big game.

[SplawnDarts]

DN's got a great tournament record, is +EV in the biggest cash games, and quite likely has more money i his Bellagio box than all the people criticizing him in this thread have ever seen in their combined lives.

Is his play perfect? No. Is he unusually public in admitting that and talking about it? Yes. Has he had personal problems that affected his play? Yup. Is he better than you at every commonly played form of poker? Yup.

Carry on, folks.

[NickMPK]

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he's an admitted loser in the big game.

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I'm pretty sure this isn't true. DN at least claims to be a lifetime winner in the big game, even after losing >$1 million in his last session.

I love how so many people on this board draw conclusions about Daniel's skills as a poker player based on two days of play on HSP, instead of the ~100 days of tournament poker he plays every year. Because clearly no world-class player could ever lose two days in a row.

[Mcot]

my comment is the one that started this in the other thread.

In my opinion DN's small ball approach in tournaments is ok, but when he applies it to cash games he gets owned.

IMO he plays loose and passive in NL cash games from what I heave seen online and live.

At least Sammy and Eli are loose and AGGRESSIVE. DN checks, calls down to much, and gives his opponents GREAT odds with small useless "information" bets.

This has nothing to do with the Big Game thats mostly all limit games. I am talking about his fundemental approach to no limit holdem cash games. And if you look at his records for no limit cash games there not that great.

Not saying he isnt a good tournament player or poker player in general, his tournament record is fantastic but like Phil H. he gets owned in cash games.

[Ghazban]

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.....you're such a [censored] moron.

answer this. "i believe DN is a (winner / loser) in the big games"

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Did you just call J_V a moron? If so, then lol

[mattnxtc]

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he's an admitted loser in the big game.

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No and if u go and check his website he gives his cash game results.

I think he has used a lot of his br for other investments and so he didnt have a lot of cash on hand...Do you really think that 1 million is a significant portion of his br? He already said that being cash poor for him is different than the average person and i assume he probably could get to the money taht he has invested but that it wasnt liquid atm

edit: I do think though that there are flaws in his game that are easier exploited online then live when he can see somebody face to face as opposed to when hes online tryin to pick up tells. I think it was sbrugby that said poker is almost all math and i think thats somethign DN has taken for granted live b/c his hand reading ability was so good.

[jdock99]

If anything, it seems Daniel's biggest fault is his ego, that is in allowing himself to be put in gambling situations that are -EV for him. It seems that except for (maybe) Benyamine, Ivey, Antonius every other gambler/poker player has games he is better at and games he is worse at, and smartly chooses to not risk large portions of their bankroll at the latter.

Unlike other big name pros, Daniel is very open with his willingness to put himself in obviously -EV situations (i.e. getting hustled at golf, playing online shorthanded LHE against specialists).

Based on the way he writes and thinks about poker, it seems he has a very good understanding of the game and very good pure poker skills, but because of his ego, possible tilt, and his gambool he puts himself in -EV situations, as is evidenced in HSP.

If anything, you could probably argue Daniel's pure poker skills are his saving grace, as he seems to have other tendencies that make most excellent poker players perpetually broke and unsuccessful.

[SplawnDarts]

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Not saying he isnt a good tournament player or poker player in general, his tournament record is fantastic but like Phil H. he gets owned in cash games.

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That's pretty strange criticism considering that he's made money long term at 1k/2k, 2k/4k and 4k/8k limit.

How have you been doing in the big game lately?