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Old 02-18-2007, 11:38 PM
FionnMac FionnMac is offline
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Default Re: KK on dry flop

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so he:

1)just calls, say, JJ UTG+1, likely fearing your UTG range;
2)raises your cbet into 3 people on a 9 high board because now he loves his hand vs your range a lot more.

okay.

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You've never seen this? Really?

Not everyone that plays MSNL 3-bets like its their job PF a la 2+2. Many people will smooth call those raises with QQ- because they "want to see if an ace or king flops so they can get out cheap." Is it optimal play? No, not usually, but it still happens. I'm not saying he can't have a set here, but I wouldn't be stunned if an unknown felted TT here either. If his impression is that hero will c-bet into a four player field with an AK that misses, then raising JJ might make a lot of sense to him. People love overpairs.

Just because people don't repop PF with TT-QQ doesn't mean they're playing it exclusively for set value and certainly doesn't mean that they are all passive postflop on a dry board. They "don't want to build a big pot on a coinflip" or whatever.

Am I totally off base here? Let me know if I am.

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i don't think you're off base at all, people assume that other players are 2+2'er way too often. I still think it's a fold though
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