Mike O'Malley: please fix the Speed SNGs

[K䲰䮥n]

Here's the deal, please pay atenttion mr O'Malley:

<ul type="square">[*]Last summer the buttons started to disapper with multitablers after your update changed the names of the speed SNGs to "Speed" (they all were the same)[*]The buttons stopped to disappear after you re-updated and gave the Speeds all individual names (a month after the last update which messed things up)
[*]On January 8th you make an update and decide to remove the individual names of the speed SNGs (for reasons unkown)[*]Buttons start to disappear on the speeds[*]Everything else on your site has an individual name (the regular SNGs, ring tables etc.) and they work just fine[/list]
Conclusion:

<font color="red">PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE JUST RENAME THE SPEEDS AND WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS! IT'S NO LIKE IT COULD MAKE MATTERS ANY WORSE!</font>

Sorry about my bad English but hey, after the yanks are gone from PP who needs English anyway?

[MikeO/Party]

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Here's the deal, please pay atenttion mr O'Malley:

<ul type="square">[*]Last summer the buttons started to disapper with multitablers after your update changed the names of the speed SNGs to "Speed" (they all were the same)[*]The buttons stopped to disappear after you re-updated and gave the Speeds all individual names (a month after the last update which messed things up)
[*]On January 8th you make an update and decide to remove the individual names of the speed SNGs (for reasons unkown)[*]Buttons start to disappear on the speeds[*]Everything else on your site has an individual name (the regular SNGs, ring tables etc.) and they work just fine[/list]
Conclusion:

<font color="red">PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE JUST RENAME THE SPEEDS AND WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS! IT'S NO LIKE IT COULD MAKE MATTERS ANY WORSE!</font>

Sorry about my bad English but hey, after the yanks are gone from PP who needs English anyway?

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Hi Karpenan,
That was my obvious first reaction as well…change the names back. I have been assured that isn’t the problem this time, but it may get changed back just to be safe.
In the first release where the names were changed the problem was very specific; the HHs were being written for multiple tables to the same file, thus causing a delay when someone was playing multiple tables. This delay caused the buttons to not appear in the timeframe that they should (or not at all).
The result was that many players couldn’t play the Speed Sit&amp;Go’s, and the number of them played dropped drastically. There was a flood of complaints that came into CS.
This time there are few complaints, primarily just in this thread, and the numbers have actually increased. That means very few people are experiencing this.

[MikeO/Party]

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ENJOY! Go play some more golf Mike.

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Saturday. I am playing at a course with lots of water, so I will bring a box of logo'ed PokerStars balls.

[K䲰䮥n]

On another topic, have you in Party considered to make just one option for STTs instead of speeds and regulars? The change was made about a year ago but since then the volume has dropped (thanks to the US laws) and by euro daytime it's hard to get the STTs going. It would be nice if you'd bring back the old structure so the tables would fill up faster.

That's the case if you don't want to mix up different structures.

[jukofyork]

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On another topic, have you in Party considered to make just one option for STTs instead of speeds and regulars? The change was made about a year ago but since then the volume has dropped (thanks to the US laws) and by euro daytime it's hard to get the STTs going. It would be nice if you'd bring back the old structure so the tables would fill up faster.

That's the case if you don't want to mix up different structures.

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Hehe, if you think Party splitting into reg and speed was bad then you should check out Pacific!!! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

I think they just got a drunken chimp to decide on their SNG formats. They have like 10 randomly selected formats for each buy-in level where they permute everything from the prize structure to the number of players playing, but no logical progression from one buy-in level to another.

So it's like: "OK I want to play turbos, whats my options?" - I can play some $8.80 60/30/10 payout 10-man SNGs and then move onto the $11 10-man 60/30/10, then I can progress onto some $22 3-man winner takes all, then some $33 6-man 75/25, then after that nothing runs because everybody is just sat on their own on some random format hoping some others might join one day... It's the biggest joke I've ever seen...

Then you might ask: "How about some regulars then?" - Well, Pacific decided they were going to increase the chips from 800 to 1200 without changing anything else about the structure other than allowing a 20 second timer. The net result is the SNGs run so slow that half way into one you really wish you never bothered joining in the first place and want to poke your own eyes out just to keep yourself awake... Great fun...

Juk [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[jukofyork]

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Here's the deal, please pay atenttion mr O'Malley:

<ul type="square">[*]Last summer the buttons started to disapper with multitablers after your update changed the names of the speed SNGs to "Speed" (they all were the same)[*]The buttons stopped to disappear after you re-updated and gave the Speeds all individual names (a month after the last update which messed things up)
[*]On January 8th you make an update and decide to remove the individual names of the speed SNGs (for reasons unkown)[*]Buttons start to disappear on the speeds[*]Everything else on your site has an individual name (the regular SNGs, ring tables etc.) and they work just fine[/list]
Conclusion:

<font color="red">PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE JUST RENAME THE SPEEDS AND WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS! IT'S NO LIKE IT COULD MAKE MATTERS ANY WORSE!</font>

Sorry about my bad English but hey, after the yanks are gone from PP who needs English anyway?

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Hi Karpenan,
That was my obvious first reaction as well…change the names back. I have been assured that isn’t the problem this time, but it may get changed back just to be safe.
In the first release where the names were changed the problem was very specific; the HHs were being written for multiple tables to the same file, thus causing a delay when someone was playing multiple tables. This delay caused the buttons to not appear in the timeframe that they should (or not at all).
The result was that many players couldn’t play the Speed Sit&amp;Go’s, and the number of them played dropped drastically. There was a flood of complaints that came into CS.
This time there are few complaints, primarily just in this thread, and the numbers have actually increased. That means very few people are experiencing this.

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Will we have to wait for the next client update (I'm guessing about a month?) for the name change test or can it be done without a server restart/update?

Juk [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[PokerSpiv]

God I'd love to be the guy who gets to sack 25 programmers when they find out it was the names again after all.

[Josem]

1) Why would you even want to remove the names in the first place? Removing the names destroys my use of PAHud as well. While I understand that you are not responsible for third party software, I cannot imagine any benefit to anyone of removing SNG table names.

2) I have posted a screenshot above which clearly shows buttons not appearing. I don't think there is any doubt that it is occurring.

3) As you may be aware, I am simply no longer playing speed SNGs at PartyPoker as long as the two problems of SNG names and disappearing buttons is not fixed.

4) As a result, instead of paying my rake to PP, I pay it to PokerStars. While I respect that this may not be an important issue to you and that co-incidentally* SNG traffic may have increased, your organisation's income would increase if you fixed this problem.

5) There appears to be <u>no</u> benefit to <u>anyone</u> as a result of removing SNG table names.


*I can't imagine any people being drawn to play SNGs because of the table name changes and disappearing buttons

[K䲰䮥n]

THIS IS RIDICULOUS! I fugured I'd give PP one more try and here we go:

Today I mixed some Speeds and Regulars and look what happened. The regulars get "infected" too as you can see from the picture.

<font color="red">I WOULD RELLY LIKE TO PUSH THAT 99</font> and many other hands. The buttons disappeared in ~10 minute unterwalls. And after all the speeds had finished (OUT OF THE MONEY, THANKS TO MISSING BUTTONS) buttons did not disapper from the Regulars.

Party owes me money. Thats the way I see it. Do others?

And one weird thing to add: the x buttons are missing from the upper right corners of the tables.

[K䲰䮥n]

ZOMG J5o my lucky hand and I want to miniraise!

(from the same session)