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Old 02-05-2007, 05:10 PM
Gustav Gustav is offline
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Default Re: Strong draw, rr in front... 2 buy ins deep

Is fold out of the question at all..? It seems unlikely to me that we'll be seeing more than 1 more card even in the best case scenario, so the odds don't really look that juicy. I'm also instafolding preflop.
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Old 02-05-2007, 05:21 PM
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Default Re: Strong draw, rr in front... 2 buy ins deep

I dont think folding is an option here! You are getting almost 1:3 on your call. So flat call and see what he does on the turn.
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I'm also instafolding preflop.

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I like playing suited aces in position. Even weaker than A 10. I was wondering how you guys play suited aces in general.
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Old 02-05-2007, 05:28 PM
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I dont think folding is an option here! You are getting almost 1:3 on your call

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But we're not closing the action. Looking at BB's stack he's gonna be pushing here a lot. We'll have the immediate odds to call that too, but that seems to make the initial call a mistake. And that's all assuming the bigstack never just overpushes.

'course, I haven't done any actual math, so feel free to correct me.
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Old 02-05-2007, 05:41 PM
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Default Re: Strong draw, rr in front... 2 buy ins deep

I am stupid I didnt read the HH right. Thought it was heads up. He has to call 8 into 13.35$ thats not even 1:2 and BB could push. A call prices you in to call a BB push, but if CO overpushes the Hero is in trouble.
Tough to put BB on a hand though he could have anything from J10, 2 pair or a set. So he could very well push and I dont think CO is folding. So i see your point in saying fold. If you dont like to gambool fold, if you dont mind variance push, but I guess calling is kind of half assed and only puts you in a tough spot if BB pushes and CO overpushes.
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Old 02-05-2007, 05:44 PM
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Default Re: Strong draw, rr in front... 2 buy ins deep

I call the flop because I'm very happy with a BB push and I'm very happy with my current odds if he calls...I'm worse off if I raise, have BB fold and be up against CO AI on the flop and FE against both these guys seems low.
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Old 02-05-2007, 05:53 PM
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I call the flop because I'm very happy with a BB push and I'm very happy with my current odds if he calls...I'm worse off if I raise, have BB fold and be up against CO AI on the flop and FE against both these guys seems low.

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That seemed to be my line of thinking as well, you worded it a lot better.
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Old 02-05-2007, 06:37 PM
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I was wondering how you guys play suited aces in general.

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I auto raise any suited ace in CO or on the button, and will call a standard raise in those positions if they're deep stacked. Even the low suited aces have those crazy A-5 straight draws every now and then. I find they're my favorite hand in position, and the key is not getting too attached.

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I call the flop because I'm very happy with a BB push and I'm very happy with my current odds if he calls...I'm worse off if I raise, have BB fold and be up against CO AI on the flop and FE against both these guys seems low.

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I was going to say push over the top, but you're right in that our FE is low, so I revise my decision and agree with your post.
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Old 02-05-2007, 06:45 PM
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Great... I guess I'm just a big fat sissy huh.
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Old 02-05-2007, 08:27 PM
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Default Re: Strong draw, rr in front... 2 buy ins deep

shove and gamboollllll...or call and hope for the overcall.
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