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Old 02-01-2007, 09:03 AM
Secret Squirrel Secret Squirrel is offline
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Value = betting out most of the time
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Old 02-01-2007, 03:44 PM
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gillett,

raise or bet every single street (including pf). this is brutal... [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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Old 02-01-2007, 03:58 PM
Cornell Fiji Cornell Fiji is offline
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Gil,
If this post is serious it is really bad.

When you flop a big hand your goal should be to get all in against someone who flopped a slightly smaller big hand. Your goal should not be to trap a bluffer with nothing for one bet.

You need to be betting every street here for around 2/3 the size of the pot. Your goal should be to get a lot of chips from someone who has the case ace, not to catch a bluff from the guy who has KQ.

This is really bad but the first step is admitting that you have a problem and you have come to the right place for help.

Welcome to the forums!

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Old 02-01-2007, 04:06 PM
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gillett,

raise or bet every single street (including pf). this is brutal... [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

[/ QUOTE ]

Ditto. You have to get paid on these hands.

The bad news is you got very little out of a monster. Not that you would have gotten much more, but a PF raise might have netted you something.

I guess the good news is, despite giving up two essentially free cards, a flush didn't hit you.

You absolutely needed to bet something on the flop. By not betting, you let three people draw against you with a flush draw on the board. Betting there doesn't necessarily indicate you have an A--you could just be stealing or have a decent hand trying to shut out a flush draw.

Same thought on the turn. Even though two players dropped, raising the 100 was necessary. Many players will bet that board with a flush draw, a 4, or any pair, and perhaps pay off a raise.

When the K came on the river, you had the deck crippled. Highly unlikely you'd have gotten any more $$ at that point.
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