Catholics vs. Hitler

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I'm still puzzled by BCPVPs inability to perceive a group as a viable entity.

As others have pointed out, the actions of a group are often different then the actions of any individual.

If the KKK develops a philosophy, meets as a group to create a strategy and all the people work together to enact that strategy.... that "organization" is acting. Certainly individuals are acting withing that organization. But the organization is ALSO working.

The KKK can enact a campaign of terror. Not simply the members, but the group as a whole is greater and different then the sole actions of individuals. It is completely appropriate to talk about and be critical of the the actions of the organization.

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right, but what if there are some members who call themselves members of the KKK, yet do not agree with or follow the philosophy that was developed by the majority/those in power. Do we still group those people with those who are doing wrong?

What if many years after the ones who developed the "bad" philosophy have died, the KKK has now developed a more peaceful and loving philosophy. Do we continue to condemn the CURRENT KKK, or do we (be reasonable) and condemn the KKK of the past?

I believe that is what BCPVP is trying to say ...

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nobody will come out and say that they would forgive the KKK. i tried this approach. it only works with the church because faith is blind.