3/6:check-raised with second pair TK

[jstill]

notes on villain: valuebet set on 4flush board when ck to on river. limp A7s utg ck K x y flop vs bb who checked, checked turn with bdfd. raise K9o in CO ck rag flop. Didnt donk bluff river after stealer checked turn with a missed draw with no showdown value.

5 handed hero raises AhQh in CO, bb calls

flop KdQc2c
bb checks, hero bets, bb raises, hero...

how often are u folding a non club rag turn, how about a nonclub J or T? if ur calling down is there another line u should take besides call call call. if u call the turn are u calling any river or are u folding say the 9 of clubs?

[milesdyson]

I'm only folding if like the Tc and then the 9c fall. So basically never. And I'm pretty much just calling down all the time.

[Lost Wages]

I would 3 bet the flop, bet the turn and, depending on the board, maybe value bet the river. Your PF raise could have been a steal for all he knows. A average player could CR the flop with a lot of hands you beat; a worse Q, JT, flush draw, pocket pair, maybe AJ or AT or maybe just air.

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[jba]

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I would 3 bet the flop, bet the turn and, depending on the board, maybe value bet the river.

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I like this mostly because villain is so weak - I would only tend to VB the river if I improve though.

[gopnik]

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I'm only folding if like the Tc and then the 9c fall. So basically never. And I'm pretty much just calling down all the time.

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same

[Burnsabre]

Villain being weak read is bad thing because of the whole ch/r thing on the flop. Even so, I'd need to see a showdown here.. cheapest way would be 3bet, bet, ch UI..

[danzasmack]

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I'm only folding if like the Tc and then the 9c fall. So basically never. And I'm pretty much just calling down all the time.

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I need a jpeg of a big thumbs up so i can just start posting that under my quotes.

[Stack]

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I would 3 bet the flop, bet the turn and, depending on the board, maybe value bet the river. Your PF raise could have been a steal for all he knows. A average player could CR the flop with a lot of hands you beat; a worse Q, JT, flush draw, pocket pair, maybe AJ or AT or maybe just air.

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For this same reason, I don't want him to fold his weaker hands. I think a call down gets the most when we are ahead and loses the least when he has a K.

[milesdyson]

Well it doesn't lose the least against a K unless the guy puts more bets in with a K. Meaning he would either have to cap the flop and lead the turn or call the flop 3-bet and check raise the turn. In general I think people just call down with KJ or KT on this board so you actually lose less when you 3-bet the flop (also not true if he donks the river).

Still doesn't make me like 3-betting very much.

[sharpie]

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I'm only folding if like the Tc and then the 9c fall. So basically never. And I'm pretty much just calling down all the time.

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I need a jpeg of a big thumbs up so i can just start posting that under my quotes.

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