Low stake "pros" ???

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So you are saying you are going to average $10/hour at 3-6. I'll tell you right off you wont, because you won't. I barely average $10/hour at 5-10 at the local casino, and I'm a better player than you.

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10 years ago $10/hr at $3-$6 was pretty easy to make. The rake is higher these days, but the players are enough weaker (at these levels) to offset that. I would expect a good player to make very similiar amounat at 3-6 and 5-10 as 3-6 is a good structure that promotes action and 5-10 is a horrible action and is only spread in out of the way places that don't know any better.

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Woot! Somebody much better than me at poker seems to agree with me.

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So you are saying you are going to average $10/hour at 3-6. I'll tell you right off you wont, because you won't. I barely average $10/hour at 5-10 at the local casino, and I'm a better player than you.

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10 years ago $10/hr at $3-$6 was pretty easy to make. The rake is higher these days, but the players are enough weaker (at these levels) to offset that. I would expect a good player to make very similiar amounat at 3-6 and 5-10 as 3-6 is a good structure that promotes action and 5-10 is a horrible action and is only spread in out of the way places that don't know any better.

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Woot! Somebody much better than me at poker seems to agree with me.

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I thought it was pretty commonly accepted, even in a few 2p2 books that it is extremely tough to make over 1bb/hour in live, low limit games, and 1.5 is damn near impossible? I might be remembering things wrong, but with the rake and tips and stuff, making 7$/hour in 3/6 is a bitch, not because of the players quality of play, but becuase of tokes, rake etc. Very rarely do you get a table where you can consistently get 30+ hands an hour, unless its a table that you dont want to be at in the first place. I always just use 30 hands/hour in figuring my hourly rate. Playing low lhe for a living, is retarded imo (live), 99% of the time, games at 3 times the stakes arent hard to beat for a good clip.

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I thought it was pretty commonly accepted, even in a few 2p2 books that it is extremely tough to make over 1bb/hour in live, low limit games, and 1.5 is damn near impossible?

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I don't have the figures in front of me to know the exact number of hours but in 98 and 99 prior to the MGM closing its poker room I played about 40 hours a week there and beat the 4-8 game for $15/hr (the actual number was either just over or just below $15). This game was sometimes played with a half kill to 6-12, but it was also played with blinds half the normal size.

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I thought it was pretty commonly accepted, even in a few 2p2 books that it is extremely tough to make over 1bb/hour in live, low limit games, and 1.5 is damn near impossible?

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I don't have the figures in front of me to know the exact number of hours but in 98 and 99 prior to the MGM closing its poker room I played about 40 hours a week there and beat the 4-8 game for $15/hr (the actual number was either just over or just below $15). This game was sometimes played with a half kill to 6-12, but it was also played with blinds half the normal size.

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so the blinds were 1/2 all the time? or are you saying the game, when it was killed, stayed at the normal 2$, 4$ blinds?

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I thought it was pretty commonly accepted, even in a few 2p2 books that it is extremely tough to make over 1bb/hour in live, low limit games, and 1.5 is damn near impossible?

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I don't have the figures in front of me to know the exact number of hours but in 98 and 99 prior to the MGM closing its poker room I played about 40 hours a week there and beat the 4-8 game for $15/hr (the actual number was either just over or just below $15). This game was sometimes played with a half kill to 6-12, but it was also played with blinds half the normal size.

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so the blinds were 1/2 all the time? or are you saying the game, when it was killed, stayed at the normal 2$, 4$ blinds?

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The blinds were $1 and $2 and the kill posted a $3 blind to play $6-$12. This used to be a very common structure in Las Vegas. Back then the only place with the correct sized blinds was Mirage and then Bellagio.

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I thought it was pretty commonly accepted, even in a few 2p2 books that it is extremely tough to make over 1bb/hour in live, low limit games, and 1.5 is damn near impossible?

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I don't have the figures in front of me to know the exact number of hours but in 98 and 99 prior to the MGM closing its poker room I played about 40 hours a week there and beat the 4-8 game for $15/hr (the actual number was either just over or just below $15). This game was sometimes played with a half kill to 6-12, but it was also played with blinds half the normal size.

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so the blinds were 1/2 all the time? or are you saying the game, when it was killed, stayed at the normal 2$, 4$ blinds?

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The blinds were $1 and $2 and the kill posted a $3 blind to play $6-$12. This used to be a very common structure in Las Vegas. Back then the only place with the correct sized blinds was Mirage and then Bellagio.

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Im a little confused still. Were the blinds 1/2 ALL the time, or just when it was a kill hand?

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I thought it was pretty commonly accepted, even in a few 2p2 books that it is extremely tough to make over 1bb/hour in live, low limit games, and 1.5 is damn near impossible?

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I don't have the figures in front of me to know the exact number of hours but in 98 and 99 prior to the MGM closing its poker room I played about 40 hours a week there and beat the 4-8 game for $15/hr (the actual number was either just over or just below $15). This game was sometimes played with a half kill to 6-12, but it was also played with blinds half the normal size.

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so the blinds were 1/2 all the time? or are you saying the game, when it was killed, stayed at the normal 2$, 4$ blinds?

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The blinds were $1 and $2 and the kill posted a $3 blind to play $6-$12. This used to be a very common structure in Las Vegas. Back then the only place with the correct sized blinds was Mirage and then Bellagio.

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Im a little confused still. Were the blinds 1/2 ALL the time, or just when it was a kill hand?

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The blinds were $1 and $2. A kill blind ($3 in this game) is posted when a player triggers the kill (2 pots in a row in this game). Typically the blinds do not change for a kill pot (anywhere that I am aware of) there is simply a third blind posted by the killer.