H O R SE and S H O E

[The Rivercard]

Now that the WSOP is running a $50,000 H O R S E do you think that this will help bring more players into Stud, Omaha etc. Poker needs to evolve to keep on growing so I hope this means more tournaments will play a wider range of games. Deos anyone agree?

[Dynasty]

I don't think it will bring any more players into stud and omaha. And, I don't think this is what poker needs to do to expand the game.

[dibbs]

Is it even gonna be broadcasted?

[gilbert]

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Is it even gonna be broadcasted?

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iirc, it's going to be the mix game and the final table is going to be no limit hold'em.

[TFlo]

The final table will be NLH? Link?

[betgo]

Official WSOP schedule

That's interesting they are having it for $50K, 5x the NLHE ME. They didn't even have a HORSE or HOSE event last year. HORSE attracts strong players and they should have quite a lineup for that at $50K. I would expect it will be televised at $50K.

I play all the HORSE events equally badly and would like to play in HORSE tournaments. However, they have had $200 HORSE tournaments online with like 20 players including several name pros, so it seems more EV+ to play the games the fish play.

[gilbert]

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The final table will be NLH? Link?

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i saw somewhere that there were talks about making the final table nlhe to make it where such a strong field could be televised, but it might just be horse throughout.

[betgo]

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The final table will be NLH? Link?

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i saw somewhere that there were talks about making the final table nlhe to make it where such a strong field could be televised, but it might just be horse throughout.

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Sonds like a really bad idea. Switching to NLHE for the final table would be a real abomination. Just televise the mixed games. They have televised PLO, Stud, razz, and limit HE.

[betgo]

Looks like they are going for the abomination.
schedule

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2006

EVENT 38
H. O. R. S. E.
TEXAS HOLD'EM (LIMIT), OMAHA/8B, RAZZ, STUD, STUD/8B
$50,000 BUY-IN
Tuesday, July 25, 2006, 4:00 P.M.
3 Day Event

Schedule of Play

LEVEL GAME ANTE LOW CARD COMPLETION BLINDS LIMIT
1 Hold’em $100-$200 $200-$400
2 Omaha/8B $100-$200 $200-$400
3 Razz $100 $100 $300 $300-$600
4 Stud $100 $100 $300 $300-$600
5 Stud/8B $100 $100 $300 $300-$600
6 Hold’em $200-$400 $400-$800
7 Omaha/8B $200-$400 $400-$800
8 Razz $100 $200 $600 $600-$1200
9 Stud $100 $200 $600 $600-$1200
10 Stud/8B $100 $200 $600 $600-$1200
11 Hold’em $400-$800 $800-$1600
12 Omaha/8 $400-$800 $800-$1600
13 Razz $200 $300 $1000 $1000-$2000
14 Stud $200 $300 $1000 $1000-$2000
15 Stud/8B $200 $300 $1000 $1000-$2000
16 Hold’em $500-$1500 $1500-$3000
17 Omaha/8B $500-$1500 $1500-$3000
18 Razz $400 $600 $2000 $2000-$4000
19 Stud $400 $600 $2000 $2000-$4000
20 Stud/8B $400 $600 $2000 $2000-$4000
REMOVE $100 CHIPS
21 Hold’em $1500-$3000 $3000-$6000
22 Omaha/8B $1500-$3000 $3000-$6000
23 Razz $1000 $1500 $4000 $4000-$8000
24 Stud $1000 $1500 $4000 $4000-$8000
25 Stud/8B $1000 $1500 $4000 $4000-$8000
REMOVE $500 CHIPS
26 Hold’em $3000-$6000 $6000-$12000
27 Omaha/8B $3000-$6000 $6000-$12000
28 Razz $3000 $3000 $8000 $8000-$16000
29 Stud $3000 $3000 $8000 $8000-$16000
30 Stud/8B $3000 $3000 $8000 $8000-$16000
31 Hold’em $5000-$10000 $10000-$20000
32 Omaha/8B $5000-$10000 $10000-$20000
33 Razz $4000 $6000 $15000 $15000-$30000
34 Stud $4000 $6000 $15000 $15000-$30000
35 Stud/8B $4000 $6000 $15000 $15000-$30000

THIS IS A NEW EVENT FOR THIS 2006 WSOP

36 Hold’em $10000-$20000 $20000-$40000
37 Omaha/8B $10000-$20000 $20000-$40000
38 Razz $5000 $10000 $30000 $30000-$60000
39 Stud $5000 $10000 $30000 $30000-$60000
40 Stud/8B $5000 $10000 $30000 $30000-$60000
41 Hold’em $20000-$40000 $40000-$80000
42 Omaha/8B $20000-$40000 $40000-$80000
43 Razz $10000 $20000 $60000 $60000-$120000
44 Stud $10000 $20000 $60000 $60000-$120000
45 Stud/8B $10000 $20000 $60000 $60000-$120000
46 Hold’em $40000-$80000 $80000-$160000
47 Omaha/8B $40000-$80000 $80000-$160000
FINAL TABLE
NO-LIMIT HOLD'EM
Thursday, July 27, 2006, 2 P.M.

Schedule of Play

LEVEL ANTES BLINDS
1 $3000 $10000-$20000
2 $4000 $12000-$24000
3 $5000 $15000-$30000
4 $5000 $20000-$40000
5 $5000 $25000-$50000
6 $10000 $30000-$60000
7 $10000 $40000-$80000
8 $10000 $50000-$100000
9 $20000 $60,000-$120000
10 $20000 $80,000-$160000
11 $30000 $100000-$200000
12 $40000 $120000-$240000


General Rules
Players will begin with $50,000 in Tournament Chips.
All games in H.O.R.S.E.; Hold’em, Omaha/8B, Razz, Stud, and Stud/ 8B will be played as Limit games until the Final Table.
The Final Table play will be No-Limit Hold’em.
All levels, up to the Final Table, will last 40 minutes.
Breaks will be every three levels. Final Table levels will last 90 minutes. There will be a break after each level at the Final Table. Dinner breaks will be at the discretion of the Tournament Director.
Play will continue on Day One until the completion of Level 15.
Day 2 play will resume on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 at 2 PM and will play down to the Final Table.
Day 3 play will resume at 2 PM on Thursday, July 27, 2006.
The Rio reserves the right to alter or change the schedule, in order to play the tournament in the above mentioned timeframe.
6% of the total entry pool will be withheld.

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[NickMPK]

I think HORSE with a NLHE final table is the obvious solution.

Everyone wants to see final tables with a lot of big-name pros playing for huge prizes. But NLHE is the only game that really televises well. PLO and LHE aren't bad, but showing any of the Hi/Lo games on TV would be a disaster.

The pros should be happy they got a big buy-in mixed game, and the TV networks and audience should be happy that they will get a great NLHE final table. The number of people out there who want to get Stud 8/B on TV is really small.