It's about time we had this discussion

[josh_x]

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Ok, so when stacks are 500bbs deep you should be open raising to 20xbb? Do you realize how retarded that is? Risking 20bbs to win 1.5? Also, rarely will everybody be 200bbs deep. If you have two guys other than yourself 200bbs deep, and two other guys with < 100 bbs then your strategy is not only unreasonable but is very exploitable, particularly if say somebody at the table has 50bbs and can play perfectly against you.

There was a thread in msnl debating whether stack sizes or blinds dictated raise sizes. In reality they both do to a degree but blinds are more significant.

Also wtf raising to 4x with 200bb stacks is not the same thing as minraising in a 100bb stack game. That is beyond retarded. Just because the default buyin for an online NL cash game is 100bbs doesn't mean the goal is to always have everything in relation to it at all times. That's the biggest BS I've ever heard.

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AP, pretty obviously, the deeper every1 is, the bigger your preflop raise should be, they shouldn't be in a 1 to 1 ration for sure, but to say that if every1 is 500BBs deep that a 4xBB+1 open is optimal is IMO pretty wrong

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I agree that you should generally raise more when deeper, but only because people will call more. The depth of stacks mean nothing in itself, but the effect it has on people's calling ranges means that often raising bigger than 4x is better.