TPTK - vs thinking TAG.

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Will a thinking TAG call a Flop raise with KQ on a draw heavy board??? I doubt it.

With a set he would reraise the Flop to kick draws out.

The way it was played highly suggests flush draw- semibluff then calling with implied odds.

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I thought a little decided he probably has A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]Kx or Qx - and is capable of laying down a set/straight here is I represent a made flush.

Turn: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($23.5, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc3333">Hero bets $23.5</font>, <font color="#cc3333">SB raises all-in $44.55</font>

ah.

OK so I am likely drawing dead here at best - IF he has a set theres a slim chance I'll draw a K - if he has 2pair theres a slightly fatter chance I'll outdraw him - I'm pot committed here now tho aren't I? Is it worth $20 to discover what he has make appropriate notes and relearn a painful lesson about how you aren't supposed to back TPTK with an entire stack?

This lesson is really going to sink in one of these days...

[quarkncover]

Matrix-

Why did you make a full PSB bet on the turn?

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Why did you make a full PSB bet on the turn?

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to represent a made flush. Villain sees turn comes [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] and checked to me = weakness...

I believe villain to be capable of layng down a set/straight here if I turn up the heat and he thinks I have the flush. I have only bet like this and shown down good hands (i.e better than 2pair) up to this point. Also If villain is a thinking TAG there's no way he can have a made flush as why would he call my flop bet with awful odds if he has a clue ... (?)

[quarkncover]

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Why did you make a full PSB bet on the turn?

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to represent a made flush. Villain sees turn comes [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] and checked to me = weakness...

I believe villain to be capable of layng down a set/straight here if I turn up the heat and he thinks I have the flush. I have only bet like this and shown down good hands (i.e better than 2pair) up to this point. Also If villain is a thinking TAG there's no way he can have a made flush as why would he call my flop bet with awful odds if he has a clue ... (?)

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Come on, would you really make a full PSB with a flush on the turn?

[matrix]

yes I would.

and before you say anything - yes I usually raise my fd's as well.

why is making a PSB here (assuming you do have a made flush) a bad thing?

this is SSNL - value bet your good hands and the donkeys pay you off...

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If he is a "thinking player", and if he hit a flush, he realises that a diamond on the river will kill his action, so he'll bet the turn with his flush and try to extract money from you before the board pairs or the 4th diamond shuts you down. He checked, so if he has a flush he is a donkey

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I think leading into Hero on the turn after they raised on the flop screams huge hand. I don't think checking and letting the Hero bet is such a bad idea. They raised after all, and will probably bet the turn.

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I think leading into Hero on the turn after they raised on the flop screams huge hand. I don't think checking and letting the Hero bet is such a bad idea. They raised after all, and will probably bet the turn.

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I do have quite an aggro image - so he probably is checking the turn hoping I am going to bet at it. Which of course I did.