The Mathematics of Poker

[JackStrap]

When we can expect an hardcover edition of the book??

i did read the book and after 200 pages it's broken, seem like very fragile edition

[uDevil]

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For example mamy of the problems in finance, gambling, and operations research and control theory turn out to be very similar,...

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Would you expand on this a little? What does control theory have in common with game theory? TIA.

All I know is that I got a serious headache while glancing at the book at Barnes & Noble. I think I'm going to pass.

[The White Rabbit]

Ordered it @ Amazon. As a math student I'm really looking forward to it.

[smbruin22]

just got the book....

looks pretty exciting. some pretty nice stuff in there that people will like...

and math is pretty basic in general. algebra and first two weeks of basic probability/stats course. notation is tricky though but i don't think that's math knowledge and it's all explained (and it's a pain for people skilled in math too)..... warning, there is alot of math though. probably someone who wanted no math at all could pick out alot of good stuff.



very excited about this book, but have open mind.

[kerr]

I had this in my Amazon cart, when I checked today there was a message that the book is no longer available except through resellers.

"We're sorry. The item The Mathematics of Poker is no longer available from the seller you selected. We've moved it to the Saved Items section of your Shopping Cart. To see if it's available from another seller, click here to return to the item's product detail page."

Is the book out of print? Does anyone know why it's not available on amazon.com anymore?

[deepdowntruth]

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I had this in my Amazon cart, when I checked today there was a message that the book is no longer available except through resellers.

"We're sorry. The item The Mathematics of Poker is no longer available from the seller you selected. We've moved it to the Saved Items section of your Shopping Cart. To see if it's available from another seller, click here to return to the item's product detail page."

Is the book out of print? Does anyone know why it's not available on amazon.com anymore?

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When this message shows up, it generally indicates that you put a used copy (vs. one a new copy from Amazon) in your cart and his particular copy sold before you placed your order.

[kerr]

yeah I'm not sure what happened or why. all seems ok now.

[skillzilla]

this book sure is hard for someone whose first language isnt english :<

[derosnec]

finished the book, though i haven't read this thread.

for NL cash (i play small stakes), experience is much more important than the math approach presented in this book.

after having played hundreds of thousands of hands of NL cash, i don't need math (beyond basic probability/odds) to make decisions. if i am the pfr and the caller leads small on the flop, they have a draw or marginal hand and will fold just about every time to a raise. if i raise pf, unless the opponent is shortstacked, a reraise is never AK/QQ or worse - they call with those hands. if someones minbets turn, they have a draw/marginal hand. if someone raises a three flush board on the river, they have the nuts or 2nd nuts. if i am the pfr and get check-raised on the flop or turn, my top pair (especially if it is a K high board) is no good. and so on. i don't use math for any of these because the scenarios keep repeating themselves.

so, i would definitely try to get as much experience as possible for NL rather than try to use the book's math approach of "opponent will bluff X% of the time here yet fold to a rebluff Y% of the time, so I have to win Z% of the time for it to be profitable." that appraoch is fine once in a blue moon against a tough player but for 99% of the hands, using hand reading that comes with experience is the way to go in my opinion.