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Old 01-11-2007, 05:26 PM
MicroBob MicroBob is offline
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Giving things away for free the way the Venetian did when they were getting the 40/80 game going doesn't seem to work.

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My understanding was that the room was not managed so well and the dealers were pretty lousy.

I still believe that actually running the room well and catering to the players (lose the Bellagio-floor attitude) including hiring competent floor and dealers would be huge.


Here's a crazy set-up:

Why not just make the 30/60 tables no-rake for a month or two?
Or perhaps just an insanely low time-charge like $2 or something.

And then after that make them no-rake at 5 players or less to make sure you are still getting the games started.

you need to get the 30/60 players to walk in there in the first place if you're ever going to get them to play there consistently.

This 1 or 2 month promotion is crucial.
Have competent floor and dealers working these games. You are trying to win these players over FULL TIME.

Venetian got players in the door but they just kept having problems from what I read on here.

You don't want rookie dealers because that annoys players.
You don't want rude staff because your customers will decide that if they want to get treated like that they can just stay at the Bellagio.

Welcome staff and good dealers and practically free games for a month or two.


Am I re-hired? Does this have a shot in hell perhaps with a little tweaking?
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Old 01-11-2007, 06:00 PM
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Default Re: Congratulations! You just became the manager of a Vegas poker room

I like the 6 max table idea for all limits. I also think that the tables should be round or smaller so that you can see other players better. 6 max should have a lower rake to offset the greater number of hands played.
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Old 01-11-2007, 09:32 PM
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Default Re: Congratulations! You just became the manager of a Vegas poker room

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Am I re-hired? Does this have a shot in hell perhaps with a little tweaking?

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nope, you cant follow instructions [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

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Old 01-11-2007, 09:43 PM
Don Olney Don Olney is offline
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Default Re: Congratulations! You just became the manager of a Vegas poker room

TT,
Only way to get a regular 30/60 going is to have a feeder off of a few 15/30 games. No regular 15/30 - the 30/60 will die.
As for playing short handed, many of us will with the right mix short handed. It does no good to have 5 or 6 very good players sitting around beating each other up. Thus the need for the feeder game.
Even at the "B" on any given night, you will not see a bunch of locals sitting around playing each other short handed.

Offering comp $$ at a higher rate to the 30/60 players is not the answer. That will only carry the game so far.

You need to step back on your "jump right into 30/60".
Build a solid 15/30 player base, the 30/60 player will follow.

Also, thinking of local working "pros" as NITS is not the way to attract the crowd.
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Old 01-11-2007, 10:04 PM
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Happy Hour. 4pm to 6pm daily, 30/60 runs without rake (adjust the specific hours based on when the game has any chance of starting). Half rake 6pm to 7pm. Full rake after 7pm, but full means no timecharge for <=5 players, half for 6 or 7 players, full for 8 or 9 players. Give that 6mo to run before trying to tweak to increase revenue and tweak very slowly when you do.
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