**Official uNL Microbrew thread: January (nc)**

[Imrahil]

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Villain was 52/10/1.5 over like 40 hands. Also 52% WTSD and 60% W$SD. Never folds to a cbet.

Was this river push fine? (I know it looks donkish but this guy was sort of a donkey. I thought he'd call with QQ TT obv or a straight.)

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($82.55)
CO ($49.50)
Button ($16.90)
SB ($54.05)
BB ($54.50)
Hero ($74.20)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, MP calls $2, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>.

Flop: ($4.25) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $4.5</font>, MP calls $4.50.

Turn: ($13.25) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $9</font>, MP calls $9.

River: ($31.25) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $58.7 (All-In)</font>, MP folds.

Final Pot: $89.95

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has 9d 9h (four of a kind, nines).
Outcome: Hero wins $89.95. </font>

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not a fan. I think your turn bet needed to be bigger to make this river less awkward. I probably would have leaned to a half pot value bet, but I dunno villian that well. If he floats fairly often I'd definitely go for check/raise on turn or somethin...

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Yeah, I kind of get excited with the nuts. The problem is when I turn quads it's hard for me to bet closer to the pot as I really don't want to blow him away. He doesn't really "float" but just calls bets and doesn't neccessarily try and take it away on the turn.

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Obviously check raising a float is no good then. I would have bet maybe 10 or 11 on the turn (which is kind of a scary number, I can see why u did 9). I would imagine he'd raise any decent hand on the turn, like TPTK+ (this is probably a great hand for this guy), so this is the reason I think valuetowning the river with a half pot&gt;overpotting and hoping he has a monster. Its very doubtfull even he would slowplay the turn when you've shown that you like your hand a ton by both overpotting the flop and hitting the turn pretty hard.

I suppose another viable option would be pot-half pot- near pot. Probably best for showdown monkeys, where the other line is better if they really like to draw.

Another thing to note about the river is it completes a four card straight. If he's likely to shove with this anyways over a bet, then don't bother overbetting, he probably won't call without the straight and you would have gotten it in anyways if he had the straight and just bet 1/2 pot...


agree?

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I'm not too sure if this guy would shove here over my bet if he made a straight on the river. I think that if he had a straight he may be donkey enough to call the big overbet but not donkey enough to push over a river bet if that makes any sense.

He said that he had AQ which seems to make sense. Whether he'd call a $20 on the river I dunno.