I own mike mautsow

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I don't have any stake in the results, and I'm someone well-known and generally considered capable of good decision-making. Just because I thought Rolen's comments and attitude early in the thread were silly doesn't mean I'd toss aside my integrity and reputation to screw him out of 1k.

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[nath]

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I'm someone well-known and generally considered capable of good decision-making.

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well-known:
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Posts: 13537

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capable of good decision-making:
You may have heard that I do okay at this poker thing, which tends to be a sign of ability to objectively analyze and evaluate information, among other things.

Also, I've done nothing that should make anyone think I would go into this with a bias to screw anybody. Whatever possible amount of money could possibly be involved isn't worth it for me.

I was high when I wrote the original quoted passage, so it may not make as much sense as I would have hoped. But it doesn't really matter, since I don't care about the result. If either of the participating parties have a problem with that, I'll step down, because there's no benefit whatsoever to me to be on this panel. If there's anyone else who has a reason to question my integrity, speak up now and say just what it is.

[cuadpi]

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I was high when I wrote the original quoted passage, so it may not make as much sense as I would have hoped.

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If there's anyone else who has a reason to question my integrity, speak up now and say just what it is.

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lol, not that i care; but giving the evidence to be impeached in the plea for someone to give you a reason to be impeached made me laugh. (probably too much wine for me tonight)

[Rolen]

Hello all

To the people unsure of the singularity between the sessions. All our data is identical in hands, time played and $ save a few small discrepencies in G2CU's figures..Who actually has less hands. Unless you believe that both dataminers accidently picked up the same session and that the session was about 2 minutes long and lasted 7 hands, you have to admit that all 3 data sets are from the same time period.

Since two corroborate indentically and one does not, I think the terms have been met. But that's for the panel to decide.

FWIW, I have no bias against Nath being on the panel. His comments were all made before we had the second dataminer's results which is what my argument is based around, so he has new evidence upon which he can make a different judgement.

[TheWorstPlayer]

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Hello all

To the people unsure of the singularity between the sessions. All our data is identical in hands, time played and $ save a few small discrepencies in G2CU's figures..Who actually has less hands. Unless you believe that both dataminers accidently picked up the same session and that the session was about 2 minutes long and lasted 7 hands, you have to admit that all 3 data sets are from the same time period.

Since two corroborate indentically and one does not, I think the terms have been met. But that's for the panel to decide.

FWIW, I have no bias against Nath being on the panel. His comments were all made before we had the second dataminer's results which is what my argument is based around, so he has new evidence upon which he can make a different judgement.

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One possibility is that the session in question happened in the afternoon/evening (I'm pretty sure about this). It may have gone past midnight (I'm not sure about this). There may have been another session in the morning (I have no idea about this). The data miners might have picked up the morning session and left off the session which went past midnight. That session might have been 7 hands longer and 10K less successful. Since that would just be a problem with the way PT matches to what we need, obviously the data miners would have the same (wrong) stats.

It is a situation like that which would be avoided if we had two identical data sets of the ENTIRE session which we could then check for matching times, etc. Right now, we can't even check that the times of the 25/50 data are the same times as the 50/100 data, etc.

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It may have gone past midnight (I'm not sure about this). There may have been another session in the morning

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i have no idea what time the session started. but when i woke up at like 9am est, he was playing 200-400nl and some 50-100 until at least 1030am est. i am pretty sure about this as i was sweating it while eating some breakfast.

[TheWorstPlayer]

see, this is what i'm saying... and precisely why the standard was set at two identical data sets. that way we could check to make sure they're getting the right hands from the right sessions and not just all hands from one day which is not necessarily correct for our bet.

[Rolen]

This thread was started at 7:31 AM eastern. His results were posted at 3:37 PM.

There were no hands played the day after or day before that were included in the dataminer's stats. And if there were, don't you think it odd that two independant sources would make the same exact error?

EDIT : I think I misunderstood your post, you're saying it's possible that after this session was over, later on that day G2CU played another session which accounted for the 10K.

I don't believe G2CU would play a 7 hand session.

Second edit : In fact, since highstakes.nu's results are in session form, we know for a fact there were no such sessions.

[nath]

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I was high when I wrote the original quoted passage, so it may not make as much sense as I would have hoped.

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If there's anyone else who has a reason to question my integrity, speak up now and say just what it is.

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lol, not that i care; but giving the evidence to be impeached in the plea for someone to give you a reason to be impeached made me laugh. (probably too much wine for me tonight)

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If getting high is a reason to question someone's integrity like 2/3 of 2+2 shouldn't trust one another.

Somehow, we do.

[Reef]

without having to read all 400 something replies can someone post sparknotes?