Ron Jaworski on Reggie Bush- Rookie of the Year

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I like Jaws a lot but he says some pretty stupid stuff some times. Bush shouldn't even be in the discussion for ROY, he's done very little to date. You have to look at how the team would be affected without that player. NO would have been nearly identical without him. Brees was their important acquisition. Maybe you could give Bush the "most potential" award, but WTF is that.

[cbloom]

Also, players like Bush, Vick, Daunte Hall, Marshal Faulk, Barry Sanders, etc. are very exciting to watch and the "defense has to be aware of them on every play", but they don't seem to do much for a team's chance of winning (as compared to an equal-value player at the same position who's not so flashy, they may be -EV).

Also, in terms of "flash" players, Devin Hester is probably more valuable.

[Jack of Arcades]

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Also, players like Bush, Vick, Daunte Hall, Marshal Faulk, Barry Sanders, etc. are very exciting to watch and the "defense has to be aware of them on every play", but they don't seem to do much for a team's chance of winning (as compared to an equal-value player at the same position who's not so flashy, they may be -EV).

Also, in terms of "flash" players, Devin Hester is probably more valuable.

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Sorry, post got cut off. Here's the rest of my post.

MARSHALL FAULK? ARE YOU [censored] INSANE? Marshall Faulk was one of the most versatile and consistent backs of all time. WTF?

[Jack of Arcades]

Jaws has probably watched every single play Reggie Bush has been involved in, and he sees it from the right angle to tell how defenses react to him. You? How many times have you seen him play? Twice?

[TheNoodleMan]

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Jaws has probably watched every single play Reggie Bush has been involved in, and he sees it from the right angle to tell how defenses react to him. You? How many times have you seen him play? Twice?

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This can't be emphasized enough. The standard TV shot misses so much, particularly down field coverage.

[battschr]

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Jaws has probably watched every single play Reggie Bush has been involved in, and he sees it from the right angle to tell how defenses react to him. You? How many times have you seen him play? Twice?

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This can't be emphasized enough. The standard TV shot misses so much, particularly down field coverage.

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[gusmahler]

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Jaws has probably watched every single play Reggie Bush has been involved in, and he sees it from the right angle to tell how defenses react to him. You? How many times have you seen him play? Twice?

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This can't be emphasized enough. The standard TV shot misses so much, particularly down field coverage.

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Which brings up another point. Jaws's NFL Matchup show (buried on ESPN at Sunday morning at 3am EST) is one of the few shows where they show the overhead view that teams actually use for game films (and the default view in the Madden video games). Is there any way for the typical sports fan to get those views?

And why don't the networks show that view? Inertia is one reason, but surely a lot of the target demographic is used to that view from football videogames.

[Jack of Arcades]

No way. Networks or teams won't sell those tapes.

[Assani Fisher]

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NO would have been nearly identical without him.

[/ QUOTE ]Unless you've watched all of their games and seen the way in which defenses respect the threat of Bush, I don't think you're qualified to say this.