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Old 01-05-2007, 12:06 AM
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how does hero's equity relate vis a vis bb's range?

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john

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Well. Yeah. I answered in my mind all the questions you gave me except this question.
Help me out!
And this time give a statement, not a question!
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Old 01-05-2007, 12:09 AM
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in your mind doesn't count.

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don't be afraid to be wrong.
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Old 01-05-2007, 12:15 AM
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Old 01-05-2007, 12:16 AM
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Default Re: Nut flush draw faces aggression

OP:
if you know utg is weak/loose raising is fine. if there were 2-3 limpers i would limp behind with your hand.
I'm not sure about the flop 3-bet, although my gut says it's pretty close
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Old 01-05-2007, 12:20 AM
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unterfish,

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i'm not afriad to be wrong. look at some of my first posts like 2.5 years ago. i'll post my answer (which is correct) when you answer my questions. if you don't want to, that's okay. i don't particularly care if you get better at poker or not. if you do, i can facillitate that process.

holla.
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Old 01-05-2007, 12:26 AM
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Lol. Thats fine.
I dont know how excelled as a poker pro though. Thats fine by me. Because I dont want to read all these threads.
But still my question:
How would you answer your last question?
Im serious here. Because if you know, enlighten me.
If you dont... well, you know.
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Old 01-05-2007, 12:38 AM
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i'd rather not waste my time here, ace.

the short story here is that hero likely has a huge equity edge against 2 players here and he should get in as many bets as possible. once it gets to heads up, he still has 15 outs, which will come in >50% of the time and thus he is stil at a commanding equity position. because of certain hand ranges, however, hero might not have the full 15 outs and he might also be subject to redraws.

thus, the initial raise is good, the 3-bet is more marginal, but still okay. i prefer not to 3-bet there, but there are certainly very legitimate reasons to do so, including equity, free cards, and others.
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Old 01-05-2007, 01:00 AM
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Umm. Are you so sure about 15 outs on the flop given the action?
And I dont understand it on the turn because... You still just dont have 15 outs... And if you have them on the turn, you still dont have the odds for 50% or more.
Umm, maybe Im understanding something wrong here, but...
Maybe... you know,.... maybe you do. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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