Capital Punishment For Murderers

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Humans have no inherent worth greater than that of any other creature. Prove otherwise without resorting religious texts.

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I forgot to bold fundamental as well.

Humans have no inherent worth greater than that of any other creature. Prove otherwise without resorting religious texts.

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now i understand what you mean.

i can't prove, that human life has a fundamental worth, of course. i think it is both impossible: to prove it and to prove it wrong.

[AlienBoy]

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Humans have no inherent worth greater than that of any other creature. Prove otherwise without resorting religious texts.

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Humans can manipulate their environment, and adapt to many different conditions, far more than an amoeba. Also a human has many more cells than an amoeba. Further, a human has a greater lifespan than an amoeba.

Since an amoeba is another creature, and it is easy to show that a human is greater in many ways than an amoeba without resorting to religious texts, therefore your statement is false.


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Humans can manipulate their environment, and adapt to many different conditions, far more than an amoeba.

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This in no way applies worth. Furthermore, we manipulate our environment to the detriment of ourselves and everything else on this planet(global warming). This is an argument for a human having less worth than an amoeba.

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Also a human has many more cells than an amoeba. Further, a human has a greater lifespan than an amoeba.

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A giant sea tortoise has more cells and a longer lifespan than a human. Is it thus a more valuable creature than humans?

Come on now, surely someone can give it a better try than this.

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Humans can manipulate their environment, and adapt to many different conditions, far more than an amoeba.

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This in no way applies worth. Furthermore, we manipulate our environment to the detriment of ourselves and everything else on this planet(global warming). This is an argument for a human having less worth than an amoeba.

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Also a human has many more cells than an amoeba. Further, a human has a greater lifespan than an amoeba.

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A giant sea tortoise has more cells and a longer lifespan than a human. Is it thus a more valuable creature than humans?

Come on now, surely someone can give it a better try than this.

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I don't understand your point? Is it that human life has no worth, so killing humans is okay? I'm sorta stumped here.

Killing a person to punish that person for killing another person makes no sense to me.

I find all arguments for the death penalty over LWOP to be utterly unpersuasive.

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I don't understand your point? Is it that human life has no worth, so killing humans is okay? I'm sorta stumped here.

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I'm saying that all these right to life, can't kill humans because they're precious arguments are fallacious

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I don't understand your point? Is it that human life has no worth, so killing humans is okay? I'm sorta stumped here.

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I'm saying that all these right to life, can't kill humans because they're precious arguments are fallacious

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same holds true for the arguments of the other side, correct?

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same holds true for the arguments of the other side, correct?

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Perhaps. Im not sure of the details of that argument. I think whichever is cheaper should be done. And it is certainly cheaper to execute if we trim down the appeals process. As is things are about even.

[AlienBoy]

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A giant sea tortoise has more cells and a longer lifespan than a human. Is it thus a more valuable creature than humans?

Come on now, surely someone can give it a better try than this.

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I was only attacking your first statement, that a human has no more worth than ANY other creature.

Dolphins have a bigger brian than a human, for instance, but we were not comparing a human to a dolphin, but a human to all other creatures.


Regardless, here's another argument:


There is no such thing as "worth" in any universal sense - it is an entirely human concept, rooted in the human ego. As such, it is defined as a human may define it. Thus a human can simply define humankind as "more worthy" as it is a value based judgment that arises from human ego in the first place.

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There is no such thing as "worth" in any universal sense - it is an entirely human concept, rooted in the human ego. As such, it is defined as a human may define it. Thus a human can simply define humankind as "more worthy" as it is a value based judgment that arises from human ego in the first place.

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That's not an argument. Emotional responses(ego is tied to emotion) are not valid arguments.