Gigabet river play

[A_PLUS]

I would be worried after the river reraise, but before that, this doesnt feel very much like a flush to me.

*I would still call, just be a little worried

[Foucault]

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I would be worried after the river reraise, but before that, this doesnt feel very much like a flush to me.

*I would still call, just be a little worried

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It's not just that Hero to worry that Villain has a flush, but that Villain has to worry that Hero has a flush. In other words, you can't expect calls from too many worse hands, and you can get re-raised by better ones. That's my sloppy, spur-of-the-moment analysis that I would use to justify a call. But this hand got me thinking that maybe marginal river value raises like this are a play I ought to work on adding to my book.

[BPA234]

I read somewhere, and I definitely believe it, that one of the differences between a good player and a great player is the ability to extract maximum value from marginal situations. I think this hand example qualifies, even if villain had the flush.

[Roman]

zzzzzzzzz you guys are results orientated, this river is an easy value raise, I would have played it the same way as Giga (barring any other details left out)

[Ansky]

standahd

[Foucault]

I understand that a lot of you think this is standard. The reason I posted it is that I'd like to know the reasoning behind it. My read of the situation is that when Villain checks the turn, he is acknowledging the possibility of the flush. Either he has just made a flush OR he is considering the possibilty that Hero has just made a flush. Both of these scenarios bode poorly for a value raise on the river, because Villain will either be hesitant to call with a worse hand, or Hero will (apparently) be committing himself to call a push from what is likely to be a flush.

As for calling the push, I realize Hero is getting good odds, but with what hands besides a flush do you think Villain is leading the flop, checking when the third flush card comes on the turn, then three-betting the river? This was my thought before I saw the results. Gigabet was contemplating the call, and I felt like he was about to make a crying call with the straight that he had rivered.

For what it's worth, this was from a 180-man SnG. I hadn't been at the table long, so I don't know what read if any Gigabet had on the guy. I'm well aware that people are capable of playing like monkeys in these tournies, and I'm sure you can all recount anecdotes about times that you've seen bottom pair here, but I really feel like raising and planning to call a push is not profitable.

As I pointed out before, you have to get called or re-raised pretty often by a worse hand to make up for the times you double up a flush. Clearly a lot of players better than myself think that this will happen, so I'm hoping someone can elablorate on what kinds of hands they put Villain on that will play in this way.

Thanks.

[spyu]

Is Gigabet famous? Who is he/she? I've seen the name tossed around.