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Old 12-29-2006, 04:08 AM
Xhad Xhad is offline
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Default Re: Flop bottom set - slow down?

Based on numbers, I wouldn't expect either individual to have you beat. However, the probability that MP1 made a retarded pf limp with KK or QQ is probably greater than the probability that they both have KQ.

I would not slow down if they weren't both still betting on the turn (essentially removing draws from their ranges), but as it went down I think the river is a c/c.
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Old 12-29-2006, 04:13 AM
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I was planning a b/c on the river, but when SB folded, I was kind of reassured on my KQ read and decided to keep raising. If SB called, I would've just called also.
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Old 12-29-2006, 04:26 AM
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Default Re: Flop bottom set - slow down?

man, crazy hand. mp1 is very passive and he's going berserk. also wtf did sb have that he's capping with then folds? like jt of hearts? i think i might checkcall the river when sane and cap it when tilty/having a losing session, lol.
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Old 12-29-2006, 04:42 AM
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I would not put QQ out of his limping range. Clearly he is clueless and probably has the "I don't raise QQ because an ace or king can come on the flop" types.

Most important, I'd be very weary of the .32 agg. These guys only raise with the nuts. Even though our sample is small, .32 takes some work to get that low.

While I think he is capable of 3 betting KQ on the flop, this guy is not 3 betting the turn again when you two don't slow down and he is really not raising the river with KQ.
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Old 12-29-2006, 05:49 PM
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Default Re: Flop bottom set - slow down?

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In general, bet/calling blank rivers into turn aggressors is a mistake.
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Old 12-29-2006, 06:43 PM
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Default Re: Flop bottom set - slow down?

Strange hand. Its possible that MP1 limped with KK or QQ because those guys "dont want to give away too much info about their hand".
I think I would c/c the river here, especially because you have two 3-betting/capping villains although the SB fold seems a little retarded. Maybe JTs indeed.
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Old 12-30-2006, 12:01 AM
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I guess the general consensus here is that c/c the river is the best play. SB fold was pretty strange, but MP1 showed KJ of spades and the set of threes held up.
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