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12-27-2006, 05:15 PM
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Re: Never played Stars, just how good are FPPs?
it is more then equivilent in my opinion... here are some things i have disucessed with the vip boys at PS...
Ok, u want to play the 500$ or the 1k tourny they run monthly quaterly... You can buy (2) 215$ tickets at 13k a piece 1.59c on the dollar, then if yer platnum or better u can use them and pay the difference with cash... theres one way of getting a return in cash... (if u plan on playing the big tournys anyhow....) 2) get 180k fpps, and they are worth 3grand.... you can get anything u want practically... If they cant get if for you, YOU buy it (credit card is fine), send them a statement and they credit yer account with cash. I recently talked to PSVIP peeps and they said they would be willing make accomidations to pay off my tuition debt of 5k for whatever the FPP conversion is."hence im buying an education" (probably around 325k)... this is good as cash for me.... (as id be paying the debt in cash anyhow, get liquid folks) Thirdly dont look at the cash u can buy in the stores for FPP thats a scam for dummies, not 2p2ers. There is way better ways to get equity out of yer FPPS.... this coupled with the reasons someone stated before make stars a win-win situation. The game selection aside they RB is very "equivalent" to RB. think outside the box. 
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#2
12-27-2006, 07:17 PM
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Re: Never played Stars, just how good are FPPs?
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2) get 180k fpps, and they are worth 3grand.... you can get anything u want practically... If they cant get if for you, YOU buy it (credit card is fine), send them a statement and they credit yer account with cash. I recently talked to PSVIP peeps and they said they would be willing make accomidations to pay off my tuition debt of 5k for whatever the FPP conversion is."hence im buying an education" (probably around 325k)... this is good as cash for me.... (as id be paying the debt in cash anyhow, get liquid folks) Thirdly dont look at the cash u can buy in the stores for FPP thats a scam for dummies, not 2p2ers. There is way better ways to get equity out of yer FPPS.... [/ QUOTE ] The problem for me, with getting a worse return on straight cash (or bonii) than on a gift card is that I don't treat my poker money as fungible with my non-poker money. So I don't want to have to go shopping around for ways to spend my rewards to get a better return than I can get for straight up money (or bonii). Ordinarily what you say is true, if you get a gift card for something you would buy anyway, well money is money is money. Its all fungible. But in my case, since I strictly separate my poker bankroll from my "real" money, my bankroll and outside money are not interchangeable. So I want my poker rewards to go into my bankroll not into my spending money. To get the effect that you're talking about, the way I treat my money, I'd have to take an additional step of, everytime I spent say 150 bucks from my gift card on groceries, I'd have to transfer 150 bucks from my checking to my bankroll. That's a hassle I'd just as soon not go through. Plus, at a certain point, I'm just not buying that many groceries or gas. And I'm not big on planning my discretionary spending. Altough I frequently buy books at barnes and nobles or wherever, I have an amazon gift card that I've had for about 13 months now, and not used. --Zetack
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#3
12-27-2006, 07:42 PM
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Re: Never played Stars, just how good are FPPs?
The only main negative to the Stars system is that it somewhat
enslaves you to them. I.E. You win $50,000 and decide your going to play poker for a living online at 100NL 6Max. If you sign up at FTP you get a $600 deposit bonus and you immediatly start earning 27% rakeback, minus fees, on the rake you pay. At Stars you sign up and I believe get a 100% deposit bonus. You earn FPP but not until say 2-3 months later do u earn the higher percentage of rakeback as a Supernova. If you can't multi table then it may take longer Also...say you decide to take a 3 month vacation free of poker. You come back to FTP and immediatly get you 27% rakeback starting from day 1. Stars you start the process all over again. If Stars removed the $$ bonuses you could buy with FPP then I'd say Stars would drop more because there is a big difference between getting cash in your account and having to sell [censored] you got for free on ebay.
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12-27-2006, 09:48 PM
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Re: Never played Stars, just how good are FPPs?
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it is more then equivilent in my opinion... here are some things i have disucessed with the vip boys at PS... Ok, u want to play the 500$ or the 1k tourny they run monthly quaterly... You can buy (2) 215$ tickets at 13k a piece 1.59c on the dollar, then if yer platnum or better u can use them and pay the difference with cash... theres one way of getting a return in cash... (if u plan on playing the big tournys anyhow....) 2) get 180k fpps, and they are worth 3grand.... you can get anything u want practically... If they cant get if for you, YOU buy it (credit card is fine), send them a statement and they credit yer account with cash. I recently talked to PSVIP peeps and they said they would be willing make accomidations to pay off my tuition debt of 5k for whatever the FPP conversion is."hence im buying an education" (probably around 325k)... this is good as cash for me.... (as id be paying the debt in cash anyhow, get liquid folks) Thirdly dont look at the cash u can buy in the stores for FPP thats a scam for dummies, not 2p2ers. There is way better ways to get equity out of yer FPPS.... this coupled with the reasons someone stated before make stars a win-win situation. The game selection aside they RB is very "equivalent" to RB. think outside the box. [/ QUOTE ]If all this is true,its alot better than other things ive heard.It seems strange that they will pay student loans,tuition "anything u want practically",but wont just give you the cash.Is this true,i can write them a wish list,anything goes as suggested?
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#7
12-27-2006, 09:52 PM
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Re: Never played Stars, just how good are FPPs?
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[ QUOTE ] it is more then equivilent in my opinion... here are some things i have disucessed with the vip boys at PS... Ok, u want to play the 500$ or the 1k tourny they run monthly quaterly... You can buy (2) 215$ tickets at 13k a piece 1.59c on the dollar, then if yer platnum or better u can use them and pay the difference with cash... theres one way of getting a return in cash... (if u plan on playing the big tournys anyhow....) 2) get 180k fpps, and they are worth 3grand.... you can get anything u want practically... If they cant get if for you, YOU buy it (credit card is fine), send them a statement and they credit yer account with cash. I recently talked to PSVIP peeps and they said they would be willing make accomidations to pay off my tuition debt of 5k for whatever the FPP conversion is."hence im buying an education" (probably around 325k)... this is good as cash for me.... (as id be paying the debt in cash anyhow, get liquid folks) Thirdly dont look at the cash u can buy in the stores for FPP thats a scam for dummies, not 2p2ers. There is way better ways to get equity out of yer FPPS.... this coupled with the reasons someone stated before make stars a win-win situation. The game selection aside they RB is very "equivalent" to RB. think outside the box. [/ QUOTE ]If all this is true,its alot better than other things ive heard.It seems strange that they will pay student loans,tuition "anything u want practically",but wont just give you the cash.Is this true,i can write them a wish list,anything goes as suggested? [/ QUOTE ] I don't know what you've "heard", but the concept of a concierge service is obviously to get whatever you want. I'm sure there are some limitations, but they will do whatever they can do to try and accomodate you...since...that's...what...a...concierge...serv ice...is...
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#8
12-27-2006, 11:27 PM
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Re: Never played Stars, just how good are FPPs?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] it is more then equivilent in my opinion... here are some things i have disucessed with the vip boys at PS... Ok, u want to play the 500$ or the 1k tourny they run monthly quaterly... You can buy (2) 215$ tickets at 13k a piece 1.59c on the dollar, then if yer platnum or better u can use them and pay the difference with cash... theres one way of getting a return in cash... (if u plan on playing the big tournys anyhow....) 2) get 180k fpps, and they are worth 3grand.... you can get anything u want practically... If they cant get if for you, YOU buy it (credit card is fine), send them a statement and they credit yer account with cash. I recently talked to PSVIP peeps and they said they would be willing make accomidations to pay off my tuition debt of 5k for whatever the FPP conversion is."hence im buying an education" (probably around 325k)... this is good as cash for me.... (as id be paying the debt in cash anyhow, get liquid folks) Thirdly dont look at the cash u can buy in the stores for FPP thats a scam for dummies, not 2p2ers. There is way better ways to get equity out of yer FPPS.... this coupled with the reasons someone stated before make stars a win-win situation. The game selection aside they RB is very "equivalent" to RB. think outside the box. [/ QUOTE ]If all this is true,its alot better than other things ive heard.It seems strange that they will pay student loans,tuition "anything u want practically",but wont just give you the cash.Is this true,i can write them a wish list,anything goes as suggested? [/ QUOTE ] I don't know what you've "heard", but the concept of a concierge service is obviously to get whatever you want. I'm sure there are some limitations, but they will do whatever they can do to try and accomodate you...since...that's...what...a...concierge...serv ice...is... [/ QUOTE ] yea its true iv done the (2)215 tickets + cash to buyinto the 5+30 before. saving for my tuition thing; but they said they will.... they just really dont want to give you cash.
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#9
12-28-2006, 03:21 AM
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Re: Never played Stars, just how good are FPPs?
Small question about the concierge service. What if the item you want is a little less than $3,000 USD? Let's say it's a Tag Heuer watch valued at $2.3k, do you just ask them for another item worth $700 and that's how you use the service or does it have to be a singular item?
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#10
12-28-2006, 03:38 AM
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Re: Never played Stars, just how good are FPPs?
[ QUOTE ]
Small question about the concierge service. What if the item you want is a little less than $3,000 USD? Let's say it's a Tag Heuer watch valued at $2.3k, do you just ask them for another item worth $700 and that's how you use the service or does it have to be a singular item? [/ QUOTE ] i believe once u have 180k its like a running creidt, hence they would deduct like 135k for your watch or whatever the conversion... correct me if im wrong
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