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12-23-2006, 10:47 PM
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Re: What % of major tourney players are backed by sheets/bax?
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shaniac, Are you saying you're unaware of the fact that there's a lot of cheating in poker in both cardrooms and online? [/ QUOTE ] In the abstract, yes I am aware. It's a question of how systemic it is. I'm asking for specifics. Edit: It would hard to conceal, because poker players are yentes and word would spread. It would be impossible (as far as I figure) to be able to esnure a high enough level of secrecy from the people you employed to cheat to defray the risks of being exposed. 
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#2
12-23-2006, 10:51 PM
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Re: What % of major tourney players are backed by sheets/bax?
shaniac,
OK, here are two specifics. There are plenty more. Lots of people softplay their friends. Online lots of people share their holecards over IM. We all know lots of people play against their friends differently. Oftentimes they have no financial stake in the outcome. Add in a financial tie and of course this is likely to occur.
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#4
12-23-2006, 10:56 PM
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Re: What % of major tourney players are backed by sheets/bax?
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shane, What % chance do you think there is that something like what I've described is currently going on in major tourneys? [/ QUOTE ] 0-10%? No [censored] idea, math is not my specialty. It seems quite far-fetched to me, but I can't tell if others in this thread have better information, or perhaps are less naive, than me.
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#5
12-23-2006, 10:57 PM
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Re: What % of major tourney players are backed by sheets/bax?
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shane, What % chance do you think there is that something like what I've described is currently going on in major tourneys? [/ QUOTE ] I would guess 100%. Edit: I am guessing cheating/colluding happens at least once in every major tournament, not that it's happening all the time in every tournament.
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#6
12-23-2006, 11:00 PM
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Re: What % of major tourney players are backed by sheets/bax?
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[ QUOTE ] shane, What % chance do you think there is that something like what I've described is currently going on in major tourneys? [/ QUOTE ] I would guess 100% [/ QUOTE ] So, you know of, or strongly suspect, that there is a backer who employs several horses, some of whom are in the tournament with the sole function of dumping chips to other players?
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#7
12-23-2006, 11:02 PM
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Re: What % of major tourney players are backed by sheets/bax?
shaniac,
"with the sole function of dumping chips to other players?" I can't speak for The Camel, but that's not what I said is likely to be going on. I simply said I think there are probably backers w/ multiple horses in tournies who take advantage of that at opportune times.
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#8
12-23-2006, 11:05 PM
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Re: What % of major tourney players are backed by sheets/bax?
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I can't speak for The Camel, but that's not what I said is likely to be going on. I simply said I think there are probably backers w/ multiple horses in tournies who take advantage of that at opportune times. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, but the backer has to convince or incentivize the horse to act against his self-interest and that seems like a major hurdle. Feels like we are going around in circles here. I am probably naive, it does probably go on, but to acheive a fucntioning, cheating stable still seems far-out to me as a practical matter.
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#9
12-23-2006, 11:11 PM
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Re: What % of major tourney players are backed by sheets/bax?
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shaniac, "with the sole function of dumping chips to other players?" I can't speak for The Camel, but that's not what I said is likely to be going on. I simply said I think there are probably backers w/ multiple horses in tournies who take advantage of that at opportune times. [/ QUOTE ] In the instances I have witnessed, I believe (but don't know) that the willingness to chip dump is a prerequisit of getting staked in the first place.
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#10
12-23-2006, 11:06 PM
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Re: What % of major tourney players are backed by sheets/bax?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] shane, What % chance do you think there is that something like what I've described is currently going on in major tourneys? [/ QUOTE ] I would guess 100% [/ QUOTE ] So, you know of, or strongly suspect, that there is a backer who employs several horses, some of whom are in the tournament with the sole function of dumping chips to other players? [/ QUOTE ] Yes. Although I got my wires crossed slightly. I was guessing that chip dumping between friends or share holders happens in every tournament. The backer scenario is obviously far rarer, but I have seen it in action several times while playing major tournaments.
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