Two Plus Two Newer Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Newer Archives > General Poker Discussion > Poker Beats, Brags, and Variance

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #21  
Old 12-20-2006, 07:27 PM
The Stranger The Stranger is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: city of angels
Posts: 1,975
Default Re: My Accountant: \"But how much did you lose?\"

[ QUOTE ]
I don't even get the 'But how much did you lose?' question. I don't know what they are trying to find out.

[/ QUOTE ]

Best I can tell, this comes from people who gamble recreationally, and how they think.

Like your neighbor lady might play scratch lottery tickets, and get all excited because she got a ticket that won $50. She has $50 that she didn't have before she bought the ticket, so she "won," without taking into account all the losing tickets she bought.

So if you tell someone who thinks like that about winning $500 or whatever at the B&M, the question "but how much did you lose?" doesn't make sense to you, because if you buy in for $600, and cash out for $1,100 that's how you came up with the "I won $500." But to them gambling is slots or lottery or whatever, so the concept is hard for them to grasp.

The accountant should have gotten this though, especially after asking whether the xxxxx was gross or net.
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 12-20-2006, 07:32 PM
onoble onoble is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: In why see
Posts: 785
Default Re: My Accountant: \"But how much did you lose?\"

After you laughed out loud, in his face, what did he say?
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 12-20-2006, 07:32 PM
cnfuzzd cnfuzzd is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: I\'m going high....
Posts: 5,014
Default Re: My Accountant: \"But how much did you lose?\"

this question arises cause ansky is filling as a professional gambler. Non-professionals must report all winnings, but cant deduct losses (this is done on a session by session basis), whereas im fairly certain that a professionals return would look something like "total wins-total losses" you cant just say "i made xx,xxx"

i could be wrong, but thats how ive always sent my numbers


pjn
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 12-20-2006, 07:33 PM
shaniac shaniac is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 4,386
Default Re: My Accountant: \"But how much did you lose?\"

[ QUOTE ]
So, I saw an accountant yesterday. We were going through records and he asks how much I have made in profit in 2006, I say "xxxxx" whatever, and he replies "ok so is that winnings or profit though?"

me: "oh that's profit..."

him: "right ok. But how much did you lose then?" (quoted verbatim)

It was very embarrassing as I started laughing outloud.. in his face.

[/ QUOTE ]

You sure he wasn't asking "but how much did you lose (wink wink)" by way of offering an opening for you to mention that craps session late night in Casino du Montreal when you went off for like 80K?
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 12-20-2006, 07:34 PM
yvesaint yvesaint is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 12,779
Default Re: My Accountant: \"But how much did you lose?\"

[ QUOTE ]
After you laughed out loud, in his face, what did he say?

[/ QUOTE ]

MONEY MONEY DREIDEL HANNUKAH SCHMUCK CHALLAH DREIDEL
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 12-20-2006, 07:38 PM
joker122 joker122 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: raising for information again
Posts: 5,504
Default Re: My Accountant: \"But how much did you lose?\"

[ QUOTE ]
but he needs to know "how much did you lose" for your tax deduction, right?

[/ QUOTE ]

that's what i thought...and so i didn't find it as LOLable as everyone else.
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 12-20-2006, 07:40 PM
SomethingClever SomethingClever is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Viva Robusto! (new 11/26)
Posts: 10,278
Default Re: My Accountant: \"But how much did you lose?\"

[ QUOTE ]
this question arises cause ansky is filling as a professional gambler. Non-professionals must report all winnings, but cant deduct losses (this is done on a session by session basis), whereas im fairly certain that a professionals return would look something like "total wins-total losses" you cant just say "i made xx,xxx"

i could be wrong, but thats how ive always sent my numbers


pjn

[/ QUOTE ]

You're sort of wrong.

Federally, (and in most states), you don't have to file as a professional gambler to deduct your losses (up to the amount of your wins).

But I think you're right about the reason he was asking the question.

My accountant was like "wtf?" when I showed him my poker profits the first year. He said that I needed to report gross winnings and deduct losses. So he basically asked me the same thing.
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 12-20-2006, 07:50 PM
Scary_Tiger Scary_Tiger is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 8,590
Default Re: My Accountant: \"But how much did you lose?\"

[ QUOTE ]
this question arises cause ansky is filling as a professional gambler. Non-professionals must report all winnings, but cant deduct losses (this is done on a session by session basis), whereas im fairly certain that a professionals return would look something like "total wins-total losses" you cant just say "i made xx,xxx"

i could be wrong, but thats how ive always sent my numbers


pjn

[/ QUOTE ]

Other way around, amateurs have to report gross wins and losses, while professionals just report net.
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 12-20-2006, 07:50 PM
Joe O Joe O is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 140
Default Re: My Accountant: \"But how much did you lose?\"

[ QUOTE ]
My accountant was like "wtf?" when I showed him my poker profits the first year. He said that I needed to report gross winnings and deduct losses. So he basically asked me the same thing.

[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah but then he should be asking "How much did you win?" first.
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 12-20-2006, 07:51 PM
furyshade furyshade is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 4,705
Default Re: My Accountant: \"But how much did you lose?\"

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
After you laughed out loud, in his face, what did he say?

[/ QUOTE ]

MONEY MONEY DREIDEL HANNUKAH SCHMUCK CHALLAH DREIDEL

[/ QUOTE ]

i dont even know if yves is actually being racist/antisemitic/sexist/etc. anymore
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:40 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions Inc.